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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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L-RANDLE
02.27.2014 , 09:39 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by dbears View Post
I don't see the argument behind this petition.

People claim it to be a grind to get the new gear, but you'll be playing the game regardless.

I guess my real question is..

Why is it only considered a grind when there's something to work towards? You'll be doing warzones and getting comms for them regardless if there's a new tier or not. Instead of sitting at the cap or juggling 10's of mainhands around to keep them from binding, you'll actually have something to spend them on.

Besides, a new tier of gear could possibly bring new *********** SET BONUSES. (but I'm not holding my breath).
"Luke is just not a farmer" comes to mind.


The "point" is that some players are tired of the hamster wheel and much rather have the devs focus on actual content, than wasting time adding more broken gear into the bolster system. Also, its not about "playing anyway". Yes we will accumulate comms, but the point is that the comms are useless because there is nothing to spend them on besides medpack, and adrenals because of the way bolster works and will be inevitably boosted every time a new PvP tier comes out.

Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory..
PvP Gear Viability? Read this first.
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Joesixxpack
02.27.2014 , 09:59 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
"Luke is just not a farmer" comes to mind.


The "point" is that some players are tired of the hamster wheel and much rather have the devs focus on actual content, than wasting time adding more broken gear into the bolster system. Also, its not about "playing anyway". Yes we will accumulate comms, but the point is that the comms are useless because there is nothing to spend them on besides medpack, and adrenals because of the way bolster works and will be inevitably boosted every time a new PvP tier comes out.

Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory..
^ This.

New gear, for what? To do the same ol' **** at the same "level"? How thrilling.

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Vaerah
02.27.2014 , 10:03 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by johnnypunx View Post
Here's what none of you get. This isn't about dedicated PvPers, it's about the casuals on the non PvP servers. Many only queue to get their weeklies done. When they have a full set of obroan they stop. This is to keep PvP relevant to the casuals, to keep them queuing. The real question is, do you want just PvPers queuing and the resulting long queue times or do you want more frequent pops?
I strongly prefer having to wait for 5 minutes and end in a lively, harshly fought WZ with people who guard, peel, off-heal and do objectives than having an endless insta-pop of the current garbage, whereas 2-3 play for PvP and the rest are half AFK, PvE geared (but you say they would be the ones who want this grind no? Too bad they keep playing with PvE gear) and know zero about effective, objectives oriented PvP team play.
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Vaerah
02.27.2014 , 10:06 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by dbears View Post
I don't see the argument behind this petition.

People claim it to be a grind to get the new gear, but you'll be playing the game regardless.

I guess my real question is..

Why is it only considered a grind when there's something to work towards?
It's quite the opposite, actually. It's considered a grind because there's NOTHING to work towards. It's grinding a tier just to have it made useless and then imposed to grind tier + 1. For no reason other than...

... than nothing. For no reason, period.
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StormStride
02.27.2014 , 10:32 AM | #205
This is the absolute worst idea I've ever seen in the history of mmo pvp. Why do people on these forums actively try to degrade pvp in this game? I just don't understand it. Why would you ever remove gear progression in pvp? Absolutely terrible idea.

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Ryanhabs
02.27.2014 , 10:34 AM | #206
My 2 cents probably won't matter here much as I really don't pvp often and only do on off raid nights to have some fun and a break from nightmare and hard mode instance runs.

I can honestly say that bolster probably should NOT exist as in 1 night of running the pvp queue I was able to get 1 relic, a belt, offhand saber, 2 implants and the earpiece of the opener set for pvp gear. It took all of 5 hours or so (with a break for dinner). Bioware doesn't need to level the playing field by giving people a buff to get them in a spot where they can possibly compete with another player that has earned the better stats on their gear. I think if your going to make people work for any type of reward in the game, it SHOULD come with some benefits and the harder you work for those rewards the better the benefits should be.

As for a new tier of pvp gear... I personally think its a little too soon for that. Not that their should never be another one just that there should be a decent time frame between the grinds for top tier in pvp. Let them enjoy the fact they have risen to the top of their chosen game play. Or BW could just make the ranked match season gear be the top tier and in between seasons have the comms stuff move up just a bit in stats so that when the next season starts there is not a huge gap. Again, all this coming from a player that maybe pvp's 2 times a month. So yeah, instead of adding new gear add more fixes in pvp. From the little bit of pvp I do see... the fixes are needed. This comes from someone that gets bolstered when entering pvp. Its not needed.

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Joesixxpack
02.27.2014 , 10:38 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by StormStride View Post
This is the absolute worst idea I've ever seen in the history of mmo pvp. Why do people on these forums actively try to degrade pvp in this game? I just don't understand it. Why would you ever remove gear progression in pvp? Absolutely terrible idea.
Quote:
I just don't understand
Well, you got this part right.

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L-RANDLE
02.27.2014 , 10:42 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by StormStride View Post
This is the absolute worst idea I've ever seen in the history of mmo pvp. Why do people on these forums actively try to degrade pvp in this game? I just don't understand it. Why would you ever remove gear progression in pvp? Absolutely terrible idea.
But there is no progression currently. It's regression, then back the a point where you were prior to regression. Hence hamster wheel. Gear progression has always been the bane if PvP here. They have tried damn near every alternative, except for the obvious one that even has Cpt. Obvious raising a serious eyebrow at the devs.

If you can't understand that, you can't get the "point" of this thread.
PvP Gear Viability? Read this first.
Tired of being broke? Stop being Felica and read this.
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JestersRevenge
02.27.2014 , 11:23 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by StormStride View Post
This is the absolute worst idea I've ever seen in the history of mmo pvp. Why do people on these forums actively try to degrade pvp in this game? I just don't understand it. Why would you ever remove gear progression in pvp? Absolutely terrible idea.
Do you even do reading comprehension bro?

OP didn't call for an end to gear progression. New gear is currently a substitute for actual content. Was it gear that prompted the surge in solo ranked pops? That's not the carrot we need and as the OP pointed out, there will be no significant boost in stats to warrant it. If you've PvPed for any length of time, then you know this is a pattern.

Personally, I happen to have seven fifty-fives. I'm not gearing them all out...again. The only reason I'm playing is because there's nothing else out right now. I would happily engage in the grind if there were significant rewards, multiple new maps, etc.

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Raansu
02.27.2014 , 11:33 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryanhabs View Post
My 2 cents probably won't matter here much as I really don't pvp often and only do on off raid nights to have some fun and a break from nightmare and hard mode instance runs.

I can honestly say that bolster probably should NOT exist as in 1 night of running the pvp queue I was able to get 1 relic, a belt, offhand saber, 2 implants and the earpiece of the opener set for pvp gear. It took all of 5 hours or so (with a break for dinner). Bioware doesn't need to level the playing field by giving people a buff to get them in a spot where they can possibly compete with another player that has earned the better stats on their gear. I think if your going to make people work for any type of reward in the game, it SHOULD come with some benefits and the harder you work for those rewards the better the benefits should be.
But but, they have lives! They don't wanna spend time "grinding" while "playing" the game.