Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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Airtiger

02.21.2014 , 11:04 AM \| #11	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe As I told you, the real PvPers don't want any gear progression. Keep the balance through equality in set stats. Create a ui that enables people to customize stat balances and introduce only vanity rewards. Everybody happy. This!! PVPers hate Gear grind and so do I In my opinion they should even adjust bolster to make Augments and Datacrons obsolete!
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Nomorefat

02.21.2014 , 11:05 AM \| #12	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ParagonAX No-one asked for "instant gratification", or free gear. We just don't want another grind. And yes, it is a grind. Regardless of time investment, there is absolutely no benefit of having another tier of PvP gear. That's the crux of the problem. And thanks for being stuck in decade old mentalities. I want more gear to obtain, more GOALS. MORE CARROTS. Isn't why you and I play MMOs ?

Nomorefat

02.21.2014 , 11:06 AM \| #13	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Airtiger This!! PVPers hate Gear grind and so do I In my opinion they should even adjust bolster to make Augments and Datacrons obsolete! There are games out there that suits your needs, GW2, ESO. SWTOR has always been around obtaining more gear and better gear. If you don,t like the design, ****.

Twin

02.21.2014 , 11:06 AM \| #14	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LTmudbutt Yeeee boi /signedwithsemen Not sure why, but this made me lol Aaanyway. I obviously agree with this petition, just like any other sane human being would. Bring on other forms of progression...i can't even begin to imagine who the heck would want a new 'same ol' grind, and this soon!? The ONLY thing that happens when a new Gear-set is released, is that the ammount of ppl with a gear-gap between you and them increases. A grind for better stats in a system where we have Bolster (lol) with the goal to make everyone on equal terms is...contraproductive at best. Personally i find the very idea of implementing a new PvP grind at this point offensive and insulting.
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Arkillon

02.21.2014 , 11:07 AM \| #15	Quote
signed. pls fix pvp
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DarthMaulUK

02.21.2014 , 11:09 AM \| #16	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ParagonAX Ever since Tait let it slip that 2.7 will bring another tier of PvP gear here, there has been a flood of posts imploring BW to rethink the decision. The point of this thread is to collect those concerns so they won't be lost in the Bolster thread. A new PvP tier is not progression. It is just needless grinding that does nothing for PvPers. If you want to fix gear, please just fix bolster so that Obroan is BiS. Just from that one thread alone, in less than 24 hours, here are the concerns posted by the community on the issue: [/SPOILER] It will all probably be a set full of blue mods.....
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Jherad

02.21.2014 , 11:10 AM \| #17	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nomorefat I want more gear to obtain, more GOALS. MORE CARROTS. Isn't why you and I play MMOs ? It's only a carrot if that grind results in more fun, or a noticeable improvement. With bolster in place, you are pretty much just running to stand still. Absolutely nothing improves when you have your new set. It is a grind at it's worse.
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L-RANDLE

02.21.2014 , 11:11 AM \| #18	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nomorefat There are games out there that suits your needs, GW2, ESO. SWTOR has always been around obtaining more gear and better gear. If you don,t like the design, ****. Because some people like the game enough that they don't want to waste time on carrots that are made of Bantha Poo. /signed
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Twin

02.21.2014 , 11:13 AM \| #19	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nomorefat Why not ? 'cause you consider obtaining 24k regular WZ comms is GRIND ? Did you ever play any of the old school MMOs where it took YEARS, sometimes, to gather enough resources to obtain what you wanted ? Or levelling at .01% per hour ? Kids these days and their instant gratification mentality... sigh Leet stuufz shoudl take hard work and dedication to get. As it is everyone and their grandmas can have BiS gear in a reasonnable time. @ the pseudo real PvPer that thinks gear shouldn't matter ? GW2 is right there. As it is right now you can be competitive due to bolster in any gear. It's not about that. It's about it being utterly meaningless. I would absolutly LOVE a progression ladder for PvP, that is extremely hard to top and maintain. Im ALL FOR that kind of grind - but not for another set of gear which will only cost me money and in the end ill see no difference at all. That. Is. Not. Progression. (Imo) Quote: Originally Posted by Technohic If you ever PvP outside of a warzone, you will see the need for gear progression as a PvPer. (notice I didn't specify it has to be specifically "PvP" gear) I don't care for it on a treadmill of repetitive warzones, but it is a necessary evil. Otherwise, you are going to be outmatched to the inflating stats on PvE gear in the open world. For as little often as that happens, I still would rather not relegate myself to only existing in a Q somewhere while standing safely on the fleet or being forced to go to PvE to get up to level. There are certinatly ways around that. If they wanted. But they dont.
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Vaerah

02.21.2014 , 11:16 AM \| #20	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Technohic If you ever PvP outside of a warzone, you will see the need for gear progression as a PvPer. I and my imp guild run outworld PvP. Never had the slightest need for huge PvP gear. Can destroy them today, can destroy them tomorrow even if they gain 1-2 more k health. Quote: Originally Posted by Nomorefat Why not ? 'cause you consider obtaining 24k regular WZ comms is GRIND ? Did you ever play any of the old school MMOs where it took YEARS, sometimes, to gather enough resources to obtain what you wanted ? Or levelling at .01% per hour ? Kids these days and their instant gratification mentality... sigh Quite the opposite. These days we are not "kids" any more and time has become a scarce and precious commodity. Please feel free to go play your favourite Korean grinder. Because grinding like a donkey automatically makes you oh-so-pro! Reality check: I PvPed totally happily in Warhammer where past gear cap there was... nothing. And I could focus in learning to play instead of learning to grind more. I PvPed totally happy in Guild Wars 2 and there the PvP gear grind is exactly what it should be: zero. You get PvP gear directly handed to you and you just focus on what's fun: PvP.
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