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dscount
02.17.2014 , 08:26 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Sure you are. It's been stated many times, and confirmed by beta testers that you have to go through a forced-pvp area to level up. No choice. No other option. You 'have' to do it.

So, people who don't like getting ganked should avoid ESO.
You must not have seen it with your own eyes then. Cause you are NOT, I repeat for CLARITY sake "NOT" required to zone into PVP to level up.

Even after you hit level cap of 50 you are ABLE to frequent the other factions. Oh gee whiz... NOT PVP either...

SO you need to stop posting unless you actually went into the BETA's. BETA Testers had been asked to GO INTO PVP every one of the last three BETA's to stress test it. So you are either not listening or jumping on the "It sucks I have to PVP" bandwagon. I suspect you have a listening problem as many folks have stated you DO NOT have to PVP to level up.
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Minack
02.17.2014 , 08:27 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Sure you are. It's been stated many times, and confirmed by beta testers that you have to go through a forced-pvp area to level up. No choice. No other option. You 'have' to do it.

So, people who don't like getting ganked should avoid ESO.
Again, you're not forced to PvP to level up.

Make friends and do the quest(s).
Make friends and have them scout for you so you can sneak by.
Avoid the quest.

ESO isn't a themepark, you'll have to actually think a little bit instead of asking to be spoon-fed content and wheeled around. Also, you might get over your irrational fear of human interaction.

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Technohic
02.17.2014 , 08:30 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by dscount View Post
You must not have seen it with your own eyes then. Cause you are NOT, I repeat for CLARITY sake "NOT" required to zone into PVP to level up.

Even after you hit level cap of 50 you are ABLE to frequent the other factions. Oh gee whiz... NOT PVP either...

SO you need to stop posting unless you actually went into the BETA's. BETA Testers had been asked to GO INTO PVP every one of the last three BETA's to stress test it. So you are either not listening or jumping on the "It sucks I have to PVP" bandwagon. I suspect you have a listening problem as many folks have stated you DO NOT have to PVP to level up.
Maybe he means the sky shards? There are some in the PvP zone. Doesn't bother me that they award a skill point in the dungeons I don't really do in MMOs. Might start doing them though in ESO. Just have to learn how to do group PVE content though; TBH.

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officerbeepsky
02.17.2014 , 08:44 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by dscount View Post
You must not have seen it with your own eyes then. Cause you are NOT, I repeat for CLARITY sake "NOT" required to zone into PVP to level up.

Even after you hit level cap of 50 you are ABLE to frequent the other factions. Oh gee whiz... NOT PVP either...

SO you need to stop posting unless you actually went into the BETA's. BETA Testers had been asked to GO INTO PVP every one of the last three BETA's to stress test it. So you are either not listening or jumping on the "It sucks I have to PVP" bandwagon. I suspect you have a listening problem as many folks have stated you DO NOT have to PVP to level up.
There are non pvp related quests in there, then you have exploration as well. Non PvP players are getting punished in a way, denying this is pointless.

Quote: Originally Posted by Minack View Post
ESO isn't a themepark, you'll have to actually think a little bit instead of asking to be spoon-fed content and wheeled around. Also, you might get over your irrational fear of human interaction.
No it is a themepark, ESO is pretty similar to your average MMO. Even the combat ended up being the same thing... wich is a shame because that was the thing i was hoping it would make itself stand out of the crowd.

At least swtor has good stories.

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Technohic
02.17.2014 , 08:57 PM | #85
Here is the most in depth and inclusive write up I have seen.

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/02/es...ensive-review/


In the end, I take from it that it has stuff I don't like, but it has stuff I like. Think that would go for anyone. There is a lot there so you are bound to find something you don't like and like, both; equally.

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Infernixx
02.17.2014 , 09:15 PM | #86
So much blatant silly denial over confirmed facts.

To level up, you have to go through a PVP zone a 'few times' in the words of the ESO Devs...

That's it, there's nothing else to be said. It's Forced PVP. Stop making excuses for their crappy game design, guys.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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Minack
02.17.2014 , 09:42 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
So much blatant silly denial over confirmed facts.

To level up, you have to go through a PVP zone a 'few times' in the words of the ESO Devs...

That's it, there's nothing else to be said. It's Forced PVP. Stop making excuses for their crappy game design, guys.
Why do you play TOR then?

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Infernixx
02.17.2014 , 10:08 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Minack View Post
Why do you play TOR then?
Because I do.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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Minack
02.17.2014 , 10:24 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Because I do.
So the lack of valor (lol) ranks/badges and armor hasn't detracted from your enjoyment-- Why would ESO, or any other MMO with PvP for that matter, be any different? You can still achieve level cap without killing another player and you'll have more than enough skill points to build a profession.

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Infernixx
02.17.2014 , 10:47 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Minack View Post
So the lack of valor (lol) ranks/badges and armor hasn't detracted from your enjoyment-- Why would ESO, or any other MMO with PvP for that matter, be any different? You can still achieve level cap without killing another player and you'll have more than enough skill points to build a profession.
Because they don't force me to PVP in this game like they do in ESO.

Honestly, this isn't rocket science, guys. ESO = Bad because Forced PVP.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.
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