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Ottoattack
02.03.2014 , 03:07 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by EzioMessi View Post
OP's point is that we're getting a single warzone in this whole year from the looks of it.

Couple that with how PvErs get 3 new Flashpoints, 2 New (rehashed) Ops, possibly one entirely new Op, and tons of story content in the first half of the year alone.

Then couple it with how GSF is getting a grand total of 3 game mode additions in the span of 6 months.

So yeah, it is a sad day for PvP, when you consider that they haven't done anything about low pop in Ranked, separation of Arenas and Warzones, and a plethora of other issues.
^This.

As much as PvEers keeping repeating that GSF is PvP it is not. Majority of PvPers do not GSF and GSF plays as a completely separate game, as it does not involve playing your characters and their skills.

PvP is getting a new WZ, which is good, but nothing else so far. Ranked arenas are dying on almost all servers. What is BW plan to keep them alive (or any forum of competitive PvP)? Are we ever going to get some sort of match making systems? When is my arsenal merc (and about 12-13 other specs) will be competitive in PvP? One WZ in almost 13 month is way too slow. Bolster significantly marginalize raid PvE gear while lowbie PvE gear is highly competitive (if not BiS in some cases), so on and so forth. What did BW do or plan to do to resolve these issues? Nothing.

Apparently all we need to do is "kill each other." Might as well do it in another MMO that has a match making system or a competitive scene.

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Infernixx
02.03.2014 , 03:08 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by kodrac View Post
GSF isn't PvP.
I had no idea those other ships I were killing were just really high-end AI.

That's amazing! All this time, I thought I was killing players.

lol
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
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Infernixx
02.03.2014 , 03:08 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Ottoattack View Post
^This.

As much as PvEers keeping repeating that GSF is PvP it is not. Majority of PvPers do not GSF and GSF plays as a completely separate game, as it does not involve playing your characters and their skills.

PvP is getting a new WZ, which is good, but nothing else so far. Ranked arenas are dying on almost all servers. What is BW plan to keep them alive (or any forum of competitive PvP)? Are we ever going to get some sort of match making systems? When is my arsenal merc (and about 12-13 other specs) will be competitive in PvP? One WZ in almost 13 month is way too slow. Bolster significantly marginalize raid PvE gear while lowbie PvE gear is highly competitive (if not BiS in some cases), so on and so forth. What did BW do or plan to do to resolve these issues? Nothing.

Apparently all we need to do is "kill each other." Might as well do it in another MMO that has a match making system or a competitive scene.
You may not consider it PVP, but it is. Sorry.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
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02.03.2014 , 03:10 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
You may not consider it PVP, but it is. Sorry.
Bioware doesn't either, hence separate queues and forums.
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02.03.2014 , 03:11 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by kodrac View Post
GSF isn't PvP.
Wait... what?

You mean all those things shooting at you and that you shoot back at are computer-controlled rather than player-controlled? Seriously?

I've been misled. I demand compensation and an apology! What a slap in the face!

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Infernixx
02.03.2014 , 03:11 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Bioware doesn't either, hence separate queues and forums.
My goodness, so Arenas aren't PVP either?

Which aspect is PVP and which ones aren't? Is the norm WZs? Ranked?
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
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There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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EzioMessi
02.03.2014 , 03:12 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
You may not consider it PVP, but it is. Sorry.
People, stop arguing technicalities. It's self-evident when a person complains about the lack of competitive PvP, they're complaining about the ground wzs, not the space wzs.

When they're complaining about Ranked they're not whining about whatever leaderboard system 2.6 is throwing at us for GSF. They're complaining about the Ranked PvP which currently is limited to 4, rather boring, Arenas, and involves newb teams queuing up and getting farmed until they ragequit.
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02.03.2014 , 03:12 PM | #68
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That wasn't the complaint tho... the complaint was "nothing for PvE"
Fair enough. I should have been more specific.
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Infernixx
02.03.2014 , 03:12 PM | #69
This is awesome...

"GSF isn't real PVP, thus there's nothing new for PVP in the roadmap!!"

That's world-class delusion right there.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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Andryah
02.03.2014 , 03:13 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
I had no idea those other ships I were killing were just really high-end AI.

That's amazing! All this time, I thought I was killing players.

lol
Yeah.. what the... you mean there are not other players in those ships... killing other players in ships..... in game??? And bragging about it to their friends and general chat??

Interesting parsing being attempted here today by some people as to what is/is-not PvP.
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