The BattleZone Winner's Bracket Match 1: Asajj Ventress vs. Shaak Ti

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The BattleZone Winner's Bracket Match 1: Asajj Ventress vs. Shaak Ti

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Aurbere

01.21.2014 , 02:49 PM \| #81	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Which would cause grief, and grief leads to anger and a desire for revenge. Using Anakin's reaction to the death of his mother - which he perceived as his fault - as an example. Shaak Ti's lack of desire for revenge seems to imply she had come to terms with the deaths of her Padawans. It certainly wouldn't be enough to unbalance her in a duel. Indeed she did. "You never understood, Lyshaa. I never sought revenge--I am a Jedi."
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

Selenial

01.21.2014 , 02:49 PM \| #82	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling She was? I think you'll have to provide some specific examples. Which would cause grief, and grief leads to anger and a desire for revenge. Using Anakin's reaction to the death of his mother - which he perceived as his fault - as an example. Shaak Ti's lack of desire for revenge seems to imply she had come to terms with the deaths of her Padawans. It certainly wouldn't be enough to unbalance her in a duel. Yet only once has she used said rage to Force choke high profile adversaries of Shaak Ti's caliber. Choke-ing doesn't have to be the specific example, she's used Rage for Force Pushes before, or telekinetics, pretty much the same just using different methods. As for the quote, I'm just going to use this again. She killed herself trying to get him, Right after he uses the lines "The dark side is inexhaustible." and "I'm only here for your blood." Yes that's right, I've decided I'm not accepting the Idea that she wanted to kill them both to protect Brood. Mainly because I just noticed the line "She gasped and staggered backward. Her lightsaber and her gaze dropped. A full half meter of red blade emerged from her stomach," She wouldn't have been surprised if she'd meant it to happen, and even Ti would realise she was the best hope for killing Vader and ending the empire's Regime and hunting of the Jedi. She sent Brood away from her willingly, instead of letting her stay to help, because she was Wary that Brood was still tainted by the Dark Side. She wouldn't end her own life purposefully and leave Brood on Felucia along, brooding (Unintentional pun) over the death of her master, wanting revenge.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Wolfninjajedi

01.21.2014 , 02:51 PM \| #83	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial even Ti would realise she was the best hope for killing Vader and ending the empire's Regime and hunting of the Jedi. Lol...where have I read that before? XD
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!" ―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

Beniboybling

01.21.2014 , 02:53 PM \| #84	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial Choke-ing doesn't have to be the specific example, she's used Rage for Force Pushes before, or telekinetics, pretty much the same just using different methods. As for the quote, I'm just going to use this again. She killed herself trying to get him, Right after he uses the lines "The dark side is inexhaustible." and "I'm only here for your blood." Yes that's right, I've decided I'm not accepting the Idea that she wanted to kill them both to protect Brood. Mainly because I just noticed the line "She gasped and staggered backward. Her lightsaber and her gaze dropped. A full half meter of red blade emerged from her stomach," She wouldn't have been surprised if she'd meant it to happen, and even Ti would realise she was the best hope for killing Vader and ending the empire's Regime and hunting of the Jedi. She sent Brood away from her willingly, instead of letting her stay to help, because she was Wary that Brood was still tainted by the Dark Side. She wouldn't end her own life purposefully and leave Brood on Felucia along, brooding (Unintentional pun) over the death of her master, wanting revenge. Unfortunately I feel it does, because Shaak Ti can simply weather the rest of Ventress' assaults. As for the rest of your post, I'm at a loss as to what your point is... she tried to kill Marek, took a risk, and died. Great?
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Selenial

01.21.2014 , 02:55 PM \| #85	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Unfortunately I feel it does, because Shaak Ti can simply weather the rest of Ventress' assaults. As for the rest of your post, I'm at a loss as to what your point is... she tried to kill Marek, took a risk, and died. Great? She can try. She took a massive risk for absolutely no reason, because he taunted her? Surely that means something, if she was truly weathering his force blasts, and out dueling him, she wouldn't have needed to take such a foolish risk unless she was a madwoman or taunted into it
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Selenial

01.21.2014 , 02:57 PM \| #86	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi Lol...where have I read that before? XD Oi, you dragged me into this with your PM, now help me or die! That thing that would take Marek down a few pegs would be nice, too!
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

LadyKulvax

01.21.2014 , 02:58 PM \| #87	Quote
It's outright stated in the canon that Shaak Ti's plan became protecting Maris Brood from the Empire, I didn't just pull that out of my hyper-drive. As for the rest, I will debate it later, for the moment I'm too busy, but her plan was definitely to kill the assassin and kill herself once she realised how powerful this agent was.
I am the Battlemaster of the Jedi Order. I've struck you down once already. Today, I'm finishing the job. Jedi Order

Wolfninjajedi

01.21.2014 , 02:59 PM \| #88	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial Oi, you dragged me into this with your PM, now help me or die! That thing that would take Marek down a few pegs would be nice, too! Well I don't have really any info for Ventress(I do but it's rather meh then probably what you have on her), hence why I PM'd you cause you seem more knowledable on her. Besides I don't really care who wins, I just didn't want this to be a one sided fight. Anyway I would, but unfortunetly, my source has gotten disappointed with the Star Wars post EU getting kicked around and so forth saying he is kinda done with Star Wars. So I don't think I am gonna be able to get that information.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!" ―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

Selenial

01.21.2014 , 03:00 PM \| #89	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax It's outright stated in the canon that Shaak Ti's plan became protecting Maris Brood from the Empire, I didn't just pull that out of my hyper-drive. As for the rest, I will debate it later, for the moment I'm too busy, but her plan was definitely to kill the assassin and kill herself once she realised how powerful this agent was. Protecting Brood =/= Going suicidal to let her live. Although a quote would be nice, so I could read into the whole thing.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Aurbere

01.21.2014 , 03:00 PM \| #90	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax As for the rest, I will debate it later, for the moment I'm too busy, but her plan was definitely to kill the assassin and kill herself once she realised how powerful this agent was. That's the impression the novel gives as well.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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