Hey, at-least augment your gear and use a Stim before you enter a WZ.

I think that's actually a much better way of looking at it; not as just "bads" (and I hate that term; it implies a judgment of the person, as opposed to his/her ability in a PvP match) bringing down the quality of PvP for everyone, but more of "bad bring down the quality of play for goods and goods stomp the bads and ruin their experience." Or, to put it another way, bads ruin good gameplay and premades ruin warzones. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Good reminder, though, that there are two sides to the story. And also part of the reason we started Fight Club

Well, to clarify, it doesn't annoy me at all. Rather, it disappoints me. It's disappointing that our team is now gimped and could do a lot better and it's disappointing that the player in question could be doing a lot better. To me, I look at that as an opportunity; if said player could learn to put some time and effort into improving their gear, that could potentially have a tremendous impact on their PvP gameplay and help both them and their team have more fun when they're in PvP. Of course, that's different from the player who continuously fails to improve their gear. Someone who choose to buy that mount for 2 million credits is choosing their personal fun at the expense of seven (or three) other people, and while I wouldn't bash them for doing so, I still think it's selfish.

Thanks

God forbid I actually come up with an original story idea, though; that'll be the end of posting and the beginning of actually get into writing.

Actually...

I would say you're completely wrong on this. Just on the face of it (and easily seen from the tool tips), 14 purple augments stack up to 448 points of one stat and 280 points of the others. That is a heck of a huge boost.

Beyond that, though, because of the fact that augments are not affected by bolster, I believe they have a significantly larger impact than that. If you increase your stats via regular gear by 448 points, you are not going to get as much bolster as if you didn't increase your stats at all. I don't have the exact data to back this up, but that essentially means you're not getting as much effect from 448 points of gear boost as you do from 448 points of augment boost.

That is what makes augments especially important; moreso than anything else you can equip.

I know, but you are a player making a good effort to improve, and it elevates the PvP experience for all, so I want to talk with you about these things, I just don't have the time or mental capacity to get involved in that many words.

I prefer concision. Practicing it will benefit you in many areas not confined to SWTOR forums. Remember that half of the people you speak to in a given day are DUMBER and WORSE communicators than the average person. MMO's are more than half full of people who fall below that communication middle ground for one reason or another. So boiling things down is a net benefit

Do you know what Effective HP means? I am guessing no, by this sort of response. Your Eff HP is your total HP multiplied by your EXP mitigation. By forgoing augments, you lose 5775 eff HP. How is this NOT valuable? That is an extra crit attack. This also doesn't take into account you own HP talents, PvP medpack scaling, AND being easier for healers to heal you.


Again FULL PvP gear is meaningless compared to augments in overall effectiveness due to bolster. I can craft a FULL PvE tank set and augment it all before I set into a 55WZ and be significantly more prepared, from a gear perspective than you are currently...

.EDIT: didn't realize you play a sniper. But the same rules apply. Even if you used a cunning augment, you still are increasing your stats more effectively than pvp gear does. Especially Conq stuff. Most of that stuff is a nerf compared to almost any PvE gear lower than 66...

Cool story...

Im trying to find some decent gear for a Sith Sorcerer so I can augment it. it's mostly awful looking.

i see what you mean i wasnt completely sure how bolster worked at that lvl but i have started to aug my gear, although im not seeing much diffrence per se im still gettin the same kills and medals and im happy with my performance, will let yall know what diffence i see as i get more augs

Agreed. The same is true for sages.

ok question, forums got me confused lol maybe im ready them wrong lol so a sniper in 61saugged+bolseter> sniper in pvp gear but sniper in 72-78 augged+bolster is< sniper in pvp gear, is this true?

Yes. If your PvE gear is a higher tier than the highest PvP gear you lose expertise. Although the augments are still ignored (and count for 100%), the loss in expertise is pretty critical, especially for dps since full expertise gives you an extra 60% damage. So 72s would put your at around 1100 expertise giving you only an extra 30% damage and 17% damage reduction.

It's very simple when you think about it. Gear that is lower than PvP gear is bolstered up in order to help people perform. Gear that is higher than PvP gear is bolstered down to stop you from overperforming. Augments are completely neutral and not affected by the bolster, so they are extra for any piece of gear.