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If new Class Story is so costly, why can't they just sell it in the cartel market?

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If new Class Story is so costly, why can't they just sell it in the cartel market?

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The_Grand_Nagus
01.08.2014 , 03:26 PM | #141
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I'm not trolling. I am correcting false information presented by you. It's not my fault you used false information.
Sorry lil miss, but you dont get to decide if you are trolling or not...according to you:

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But none of us gets to decide what is/is-not trolling or flame-baiting.
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ZionHalcyon
01.08.2014 , 03:27 PM | #142
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Sorry lil miss, but you dont get to decide if you are trolling or not...according to you:



Well played, good sir. Well played!

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aeterno
01.08.2014 , 03:28 PM | #143
Can't be on CM tbh, given the monthly stipend from subs.

But digital expansions... why not? GS already set the bar rather low on what would constitute and expansion in their book. Class quest packs/DLCs? I could see it as a way to double monetize any future Makeb-esque addition. Pay for base, and order classes a-la-carte. Altholics have my sympathies if that ever hapens. =P

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TUXs
01.08.2014 , 03:34 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
I think I should break this down a bit.

In a sense but not quite. Would you be happy paying for an expansion like Makeb again? That had zero class stories. What if the devs decided to go back and add, again over the course of a year, class stories to Makeb? All the assets are there, they just create a questline for one of the professions and then sell it?

Its a lot like that. The people that don't want the class stories don't have to have them. They can just buy another makeb-like expansion.

Does Makeb have quests? Why wouldn't the expansion have quests? The Expansion just wouldn't have class quests, JUST LIKE MAKEB. Post Expansion, you can allocate a small team that worked on it to create class quests, one at a time, on the same expansion planet you just released.

And people in this very thread already said they'd pay for them too - thats the bottom line for a company, isn't it - to make money?

The problem lies in development. It takes time and waiting on class quests to get done, even if you charge more for it, would cause the expansion itself to be delayed. However, if with Makeb as the shining example, you can sell and expansion that has no class stories, again just like Makeb, and then have a small team work on adding class stories unlockable from the cartel market post expansion launch, thus bringing in money on top of the expansion money, then you don't have to slow down production of the expansion, and by releasing the class stories over time one class at a time, you don't overtax your development staff or tie them up with something you might be afraid won't pay off in the end. Instead, you get DIRECT feedback on the viability of this because once you create a questline from the existing expansion assets and put it up for sale, you'll be able to track sales and see how it does. Really, its no different than what they did using Cathar as a test for future species.
OK...I think I see where you're going now...

So...if they did this, say they start with the Jedi Knight class - he goes before the Jedi Council, they tell him "Makeb needs you", he goes there and does a new set of quests made specifically for the Knight.

A few months later, they release the Trooper specific class quest DLC pack. 4 classes, they release a new "class story DLC" every 3 months.

Hmmm...as long as "expansions" kept coming out and as long as content was still being released at a decent rate, this could actually work. Still, it would really be a gamble for them if they were to try it.
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Andryah
01.08.2014 , 03:36 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
Well played, good sir. Well played!
Well played upon you, you mean. You accused me of trolling.. remember. Nagus simply ratified what I said... though he thought he was being his typical snarky cuteness... which I rarely see since he is on permanent ignore.

And you were both off topic in your thread. Stop hijacking your own thread and encouraging others to do the same, IMO.
MMOs mimic real life in some ways. Take challenges for example.... you can either use intellect and overcome a challenge or not. In other words, you can make lemonade from lemons, or you can just suck on the lemon. Up to you.

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The_Grand_Nagus
01.08.2014 , 03:44 PM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Well played upon you, you mean. You accused me of trolling.. remember. Nagus simply ratified what I said...
Sorry deary, but you dont get to exclude yourself from your own "rules". You said:

Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
But none of us gets to decide what is/is-not trolling or flame-baiting.
So if "no one"(which includes you) gets to decide what is or IS NOT trolling, then that means you dont even get to decide you arent trolling if someone accuses you
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ZionHalcyon
01.08.2014 , 03:47 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
OK...I think I see where you're going now...

So...if they did this, say they start with the Jedi Knight class - he goes before the Jedi Council, they tell him "Makeb needs you", he goes there and does a new set of quests made specifically for the Knight.

A few months later, they release the Trooper specific class quest DLC pack. 4 classes, they release a new "class story DLC" every 3 months.

Hmmm...as long as "expansions" kept coming out and as long as content was still being released at a decent rate, this could actually work. Still, it would really be a gamble for them if they were to try it.
Yep, precisely. And it would give context to some stories as well. For instance, no way in heck should a Sith Warrior should be taking orders from Darth Marr - not in the context of the story. He answers to a "higher power". However, if there was a class story attached, where the Hands told you Marr was coming and had an assignment on Makeb for you to complete while there, AND make it look like you are getting along with Marr per orders... suddenly the whole thing takes on a new context.

Personally, I think they can always use Makeb as an experiment with the idea first. Its already there - why not add some class stories there? Would make a good testing ground to evaluate risk and check sales - its short enough too so any quest chains wouldn't be too lengthy.

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ZionHalcyon
01.08.2014 , 03:48 PM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by The_Grand_Nagus View Post
Sorry deary, but you dont get to exclude yourself from your own "rules". You said:



So if "no one"(which includes you) gets to decide what is or IS NOT trolling, then that means you dont get to decide you arent trolling if someone accuses you
You must have hit close to the mark to get her all riled up like that.

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Andryah
01.08.2014 , 03:53 PM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
You must have hit close to the mark to get her all riled up like that.
You can wish and hope. Sorry, neither you nor Nagus have any power over me.

So...are you going to keep derailing your own thread and making it about me? What's up with that?
MMOs mimic real life in some ways. Take challenges for example.... you can either use intellect and overcome a challenge or not. In other words, you can make lemonade from lemons, or you can just suck on the lemon. Up to you.

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ZionHalcyon
01.08.2014 , 04:22 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You can wish and hope. Sorry, neither you nor Nagus have any power over me.

So...are you going to keep derailing your own thread and making it about me? What's up with that?
If you keep making it about you, who am I to argue? After all, if we did hold no power over you, you wouldn't have cared enough to respond in the first place.

In all seriousness, I've been able to hold a really civil conversation on the topic in your absence, where we really didn't talk about you. And I look forward to not discussing you going forward, mixed in with parts where you jump in and complain I am talking too much about you, as you just did now.