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- PvP guides - (don't blame the loss on others)

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Azzataky
01.08.2014 , 03:32 AM | #1
Howdy forum dwellers,

there is a lot of people sick of this "premades ruin my fun" thing going on. I was asking myself how we could help it? Well I think that guides are only way to improve this issue. If those people won't choose to read those guides and will keep whining about premades, let them, its theirs fault they don't do anything to get better and expecting to beat people who are getting better and better is impossible task for those who don't. Maybe one day they'll get it. Hopefuly there will be those who will read some guides and get better.

So I encourage everyone to post guides you know on these forums, twitch, youtube or anywhere else. Of course try to check if those guides are not posted here yet.

I know a few so there they are:

http://www.noxxic.com/swtor - can give you some example of what stats you should aim for, equipment or talent trees, also you can find there something about UI, binds etc. - some people find this website not so accurate and with bad information so take it lightly, it should server only as an example of possible specs or stat priority

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=358815 - ** New Player's Guide to PvP **

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...hlight=bolster - Bolster guide

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=54647 - Huttball guide

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Short PvP guide which in my opinion covers the basics only, still good to read for new players or those who complain about premades etc.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Another short basics guide which covers gear, stims, augments, medpacs etc.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Fun guide called It's not me! It's you! A guide to SWTOR PVP which should be read mainly by those who think its others who are the issue in PvP and not themselfs or those who like funny topics

For class guides I've found http://www.ezpvper.com/ which has guides on youtube on channel VulgarBroadcasting. Might have same issue as noxxic and it is not so accurate since it is for patch 2.4. Also they don't have guides for all classes.

There are some other class guides I've found on forums here and seemed interesting to me:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Kev's PVP Tanking Guide

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Vigiliance Guradian / Vengeance Jugg PVP Spec, Rotation and Gear Guide

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Sang's Operative PvP Healing Guide

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=695170 - Megapt's Advanced Prototype PvP Guide - Multiple Rotations, CD Management, different Gearing Setup

http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...ight=pvp+guide - Koozie's Powertech PvP Pyrotech Guide



Also note that guides are usualy for older patches so don't take everything as it is there are some things that might be changed more or less these days.

P.S. Don't forget that all classes have mirror classes on other side. You would just have to figure out which skills are which with your mirror class. http://swtor.wikia.com/ or www.torhead.com might be of help with that. Also if you guys know any better guides / websites don't by shy and post them here.
- PvP is usualy won by players who know that giving up is not an option -

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iRedRIng
01.08.2014 , 03:34 AM | #2
This is the reason this attempt at bettering the bads is likely to fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect
Somnax - Infinite Darkness - Pot5

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Rilok_Singz
01.08.2014 , 03:43 AM | #3
There are plenty of threads, guides, vids, and streams on how to be better at pvp. You might have a handful people that climb from the rank of bad and actually become a factor; then before you know it actually good- However for the mass majority, they stick to the old saying - baddies will be bad. Seriously with all the qq about premades, I am starting to want bioware to hand the scrubs what they want just so they can find another excuse as to why they are bad.
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Azzataky
01.08.2014 , 04:12 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Rilok_Singz View Post
There are plenty of threads, guides, vids, and streams on how to be better at pvp. You might have a handful people that climb from the rank of bad and actually become a factor; then before you know it actually good- However for the mass majority, they stick to the old saying - baddies will be bad. Seriously with all the qq about premades, I am starting to want bioware to hand the scrubs what they want just so they can find another excuse as to why they are bad.
Well what you say is just to give up, since I don't do it in PvP either I don't want to do it in this. I noticed in warzones that sometimes if you try to give advice to the team or suggest a strategy sometimes ppl just try harder after that even if they don't listen to your suggestion they get theirs own or try something else. Sure, sometimes they don't care at all and they ignore you, but sometimes not. Giving up won't bring any help, trying to somehow help those players to get better might.

They think those who beat them are "cheating" somehow and not just better, but those better players (some of them) think that those bads will be just bads. But everyone was a badie one day.
- PvP is usualy won by players who know that giving up is not an option -

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Joesixxpack
01.08.2014 , 08:21 AM | #5
Very thoughtful of you to post a compilation OP.

Quote: Originally Posted by iRedRIng View Post
This is the reason this attempt at bettering the bads is likely to fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect
Combined with ^ this ^ they'll have plenty of knowledge to do well and have fun. Hopefully they'll survive the self-realization.
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Gnoblesse
01.08.2014 , 08:43 AM | #6
Nice idea, but I'd recommend taking out the Noxxic link. Too much incorrect information there.

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Lotharofxev
01.08.2014 , 08:56 AM | #7
Bads don't care. Seriously. They do bad things because even after being yelled at (or told), they make the same stupid mistakes they've been making since level 10.

Guard a node? F-THAT ! I'm hitting that guy just standing there doing a wierd animation.

Protect a healer? F-THAT ! I got to rack up my DPS.

Die? F-THAT! Lousy team. And crappy healer.

Call inc? F-THAT! I got to take on these three stealthies myself.

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cycao
01.08.2014 , 09:00 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Gnoblesse View Post
Nice idea, but I'd recommend taking out the Noxxic link. Too much incorrect information there.
Yeah but it's a somewhat ok place to look if you don't have a clue to at least figure out very basic builds and stat priority. It should be used for that and only that.

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Vodrin
01.08.2014 , 09:22 AM | #9
I applaud the effort OP.

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Lotharofxev
01.08.2014 , 09:37 AM | #10
Quoting Noxxic automatically puts your post in question. Some SERIOUSLY * BAD * information over there.