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ZooMzy
12.22.2013 , 04:49 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Lacedemon View Post
Don't under estimate the value of a very very good DPS.

While the majority of players are DPS and it is that much harder to separate yourself from the pack a good DPS who knows to how maximise his utility, do his best to make the healers life easier and have good awareness/aggro management are just as valuable.
No one questioned it, and I had hoped no one felt as such by my post.

But still, the reason below is why there are even more good DPS than good tanks

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Quote: Originally Posted by Lacedemon View Post
Great raid leaders and great tanks often go hand in hand, as a tank a lot of people will expect you to carry the group to free epics, lead and know the pace the group can handle as well as explain in detail how to do the fight to everyone who hasn't spent 5min on Dulfy. It's a big ask and one of the reasons (aside from the mistreatment a lot of tanks get) not many people tank.

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iEuthanasia
12.22.2013 , 07:54 PM | #12
While tanks may be in high demand as far as group finder goes, it seems opposite when it comes to raiding.

From my own observations and speaking to my peers, most people that tank are main tanks for life and have an ULTRA low turnover rate to the extent that they outlast the guild itself. So while the guild might need a token group finder daily HM tank, the raid tank slots are forever filled unless you're looking to start fresh with a new(er) guild.

That all said, being able to be the back up tank for situations where the MT/OT are unable to show up is invaluable. I can't recall the number of times that a raid night ground to a halt because of not having an experienced backup.

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wainot-keel
12.23.2013 , 07:14 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by iEuthanasia View Post
While tanks may be in high demand as far as group finder goes, it seems opposite when it comes to raiding.

From my own observations and speaking to my peers, most people that tank are main tanks for life and have an ULTRA low turnover rate to the extent that they outlast the guild itself. So while the guild might need a token group finder daily HM tank, the raid tank slots are forever filled unless you're looking to start fresh with a new(er) guild.

That all said, being able to be the back up tank for situations where the MT/OT are unable to show up is invaluable. I can't recall the number of times that a raid night ground to a halt because of not having an experienced backup.
This.

While I've participated on few guilds, I obvserved the same thing.
If the group is doing decent clearing stuff, the tanks will rarely rotate (usually only when they cannot assist to the raid for whatever RL reason). In this context is hard to have a good and experienced backup. Someone who gets benched on regular basis or cannot play the character/rol he wants, will leave sooner rather than later.

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Terro_Fett
12.26.2013 , 01:11 AM | #14
What the last two posters said, I seriously started to /facepalm at the earlier comments saying getting into PVE as a tank is the easiest. That may be true for Flashpoints/Group Finder, but as a progression raid leader for a 16-man guild it has been months since we've even considered recruting a new tank or healer, good DPS we're always on the lookout for.

It's really the raid comp to blame. 8 Man Comp has 2 tanks, 2 healers, 4 dps.

16 Man Comp has 2/3 Tanks, 4 Healers, 9/10 DPS

There simply aren't a lot of tanks or healers needed in raid content (compared to the amount of DPS a raid needs)
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Banegio
01.01.2014 , 08:54 PM | #15
this is the general phenomenon in swtor so far...

pug desires healers
hm guild desires good tanks
nim guild desires great dps

of course there is no such thing as hm or nim guild, therefore the demands actually change based on the content cycle

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CJAShadow
01.01.2014 , 11:09 PM | #16
Tanks are rare on all levels of content. The turnover is less at the higher levels but as a new tank you should not be looking to be main tanking at high levels.

Tanking imo is very difficult and endgame raiding can be the most stressful on the tank. They have the least room for error and the most mechanics to deal with. The most communication is required from tanks as well for raid errors and issues. THe most difficult bosses will need Tanks to know their rotation to maximize tank dps as well to help but still have to keep track of danger to the raid.

Guilds are always up for recruiting new tanks that can work as fill ins when main tanks cant make it, or on off days when people want to raid on their Alts.

MY best advice though is to also quickly get a cheap DPS set, so you can first see some of the fights as a DPS and fill in on the easier content too. Then tanking is much easier.
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