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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Halinalle
12.31.2013 , 03:42 AM | #4041
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
For those saying that this game would be like World of Warcraft when it comes to allowing class changes, it should. Do not allow class changes. However AC changing isnt a hard class change. There is no difference from a trooper switching from commando to vanguard then a paladin switching from protection to holy. Its the same process, you gain new abilities, new roles, new rotation, ect.
Do you also automatically gain knowledge how to play specific AC after you have mastered one?

For example, can player who has played commando from 10 to 55 automatically know how to tank as a Vanguard if he/she has never played as a Vanguard?

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Jeweledleah
12.31.2013 , 03:52 AM | #4042
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
Do you also automatically gain knowledge how to play specific AC after you have mastered one?

For example, can player who has played commando from 10 to 55 automatically know how to tank as a Vanguard if he/she has never played as a Vanguard?
would a player who played from 1 to 90 as say retribution have ANY idea how to tank or heal aka play holy or prot?

or here, how about we do this in SWTOR terms instead of bringing other games into it. would someone who leveled from 1 to 55 as say... gunnery commando have any knowledge in how to heal or even play the other commando dps spec? automatically?

of all the arguments that are brought up against AC change, this particular one always made the least amount of sense to me.

assumption that leveling from 10 to 55 means you mastered an AC always amused me. hell, you are lucky if you mastered a single tree. should we bar people who level as dps from ever trying out healing or tanking then, unless they reroll and level as a tank/healer?

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Halinalle
12.31.2013 , 07:52 AM | #4043
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
would a player who played from 1 to 90 as say retribution have ANY idea how to tank or heal aka play holy or prot?

or here, how about we do this in SWTOR terms instead of bringing other games into it. would someone who leveled from 1 to 55 as say... gunnery commando have any knowledge in how to heal or even play the other commando dps spec? automatically?

of all the arguments that are brought up against AC change, this particular one always made the least amount of sense to me.

assumption that leveling from 10 to 55 means you mastered an AC always amused me. hell, you are lucky if you mastered a single tree. should we bar people who level as dps from ever trying out healing or tanking then, unless they reroll and level as a tank/healer?
Do you know what would happen if someone who has never played as Vanguard but has level 55 Commando tried level 55 Vanguard? Yes, he probably would try to stay at long range (as we all know Trooper is ranged class after all).

Yes, I have level 42 SS Vanguard so I know it's actually melee class.

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Savej
12.31.2013 , 08:57 AM | #4044
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
Do you know what would happen if someone who has never played as Vanguard but has level 55 Commando tried level 55 Vanguard? Yes, he probably would try to stay at long range (as we all know Trooper is ranged class after all).

Yes, I have level 42 SS Vanguard so I know it's actually melee class.
Are you saying there's a bigger difference in going from merc dps to pt dps than there is going from merc dps to merc heals? I disagree. But yeah, no matter what, after a spec change there will be an adjustment period. Heck, when i start playing my focus sentinel again after playing my focus guardian for a couple weeks it takes me an hour or so to get back on top of my tools/rotation (but it takes far longer to adjust to a focus=>vigilance or focus=>combat switch). Ultimately, SO WHAT?
Your argument is more against allowing any spec change but I doubt that you have real life examples of the option hurting sub numbers or playability in any of the many games that allow it

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JaceMatai
12.31.2013 , 09:17 AM | #4045
116k views and STILL no gold response? Come on, Bioware!

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Kissakias
12.31.2013 , 09:29 AM | #4046
AC change = 5000 cartel coins (I'de love to see that)

but no other way
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Jeweledleah
12.31.2013 , 10:06 AM | #4047
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle View Post
Do you know what would happen if someone who has never played as Vanguard but has level 55 Commando tried level 55 Vanguard? Yes, he probably would try to stay at long range (as we all know Trooper is ranged class after all).

Yes, I have level 42 SS Vanguard so I know it's actually melee class.
do you know that I've actually ran into high lvl vanguards who think they are ranged? because for first 10 levels all you get is ranged stuff, and then you still stick with a rifle and get abilities that STILL have range to them, so they don't even realize that some of the abilities they use from far away are not even hitting? I've also met melee sorcerers, operatives who insisted on shooting out of cover, and all other maner of inept players

a person who cannot read tooltips has a problem with or without AC change.

do you know what else could happen when someone who played as commando to 55, decides to try a vanguard? they read the tooltips? they go online and check out guides? they ask questions in chat/from guildies? you know kinda like people do now, but within the AC.

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Anzel
12.31.2013 , 10:18 AM | #4048
I can't believe how stupid this is. This is a silly video game. It's a matter of convenience. I mean really. People need to get over themselves.
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ELRunninW
12.31.2013 , 11:24 AM | #4049
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
I can't believe how stupid this is. This is a silly video game. It's a matter of convenience. I mean really. People need to get over themselves.
Why? this is a stupid suggestion why bother arguing?

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Halinalle
12.31.2013 , 11:30 AM | #4050
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
I can't believe how stupid this is. This is a silly video game. It's a matter of convenience. I mean really. People need to get over themselves.
Choices and consequences.

Could you people just play what you want to play instead of chasing the FOTM?