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Days of Sandbox games are at an end?

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Wintermist
12.15.2013 , 03:07 PM | #51
The sandbox style seems to be growing more popular, not the other way around. The game itself requires a stable base but after that the game pretty much plays itself. Just look at EVE as an example, it just keeps going. The players are the game.
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Infernixx
12.15.2013 , 03:12 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Wintermist View Post
The sandbox style seems to be growing more popular, not the other way around. The game itself requires a stable base but after that the game pretty much plays itself. Just look at EVE as an example, it just keeps going. The players are the game.
I don't care one way or the other, but using EVE as an example of what's good is a horrible horrible idea.
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Wintermist
12.15.2013 , 03:14 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
I don't care one way or the other, but using EVE as an example of what's good is a horrible horrible idea.
Eh, it was an example of a sandbox game. What are you, the negative troll of the forum?
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Infernixx
12.15.2013 , 03:22 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Wintermist View Post
Eh, it was an example of a sandbox game. What are you, the negative troll of the forum?
One reviewer described EVE best as an MMO that made deep-space exploration into a boring mess of spreadsheets and that EVE players are to nerds what nerds are to normal people.

Find a better example.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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Wintermist
12.15.2013 , 03:26 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
One reviewer described EVE best as an MMO that made deep-space exploration into a boring mess of spreadsheets and that EVE players are to nerds what nerds are to normal people.

Find a better example.
What some people describe the game as has no meaning since it's an example of a sandbox game. Nothing more. It's probably the best example of a Sandbox game currently. And if they described the game like that, I don't really think that player is a player that enjoys that total freedom that EVE gives.

I don't play EVE anymore, but I'd describe it, as if it has any relevance at all to it being used as an example of sandbox game; A space game where you set your own limits.

If you don't get involved in the Player vs Player environment of the game, you really can't say you have played EVE to the full. And as a reviewer, unless you've played for a longer time, you can't really judge the game. It's a game that takes a long time to fully understand, to fully experience.

What better full sandbox game example can you give me?
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BadOrb
12.15.2013 , 03:33 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
One reviewer described EVE best as an MMO that made deep-space exploration into a boring mess of spreadsheets and that EVE players are to nerds what nerds are to normal people.

Find a better example.
Weirdly when I saw a video of EVE I described it as looking like a spreadsheet piece of software , glad to see someone else thought so too because it does indeed look like one , yawn. I could never play such a game.

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archifikoss
12.15.2013 , 03:38 PM | #57
If you're into space sims, Elite: Dangerous will be out in 2014 and will feature an online persistent universe, online private servers as well as offline play. Also Star Citizen (out in 20??) could be considered a sandbox, or at least it will feature a lot of sandbox elements and an open universe.

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Infernixx
12.15.2013 , 03:38 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Wintermist View Post
What some people describe the game as has no meaning since it's an example of a sandbox game. Nothing more. It's probably the best example of a Sandbox game currently. And if they described the game like that, I don't really think that player is a player that enjoys that total freedom that EVE gives.

I don't play EVE anymore, but I'd describe it, as if it has any relevance at all to it being used as an example of sandbox game; A space game where you set your own limits.

If you don't get involved in the Player vs Player environment of the game, you really can't say you have played EVE to the full. And as a reviewer, unless you've played for a longer time, you can't really judge the game. It's a game that takes a long time to fully understand, to fully experience.

What better full sandbox game example can you give me?
I don't need to stick my hand into a toaster for 15 minutes to get the full experience, thank you.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.

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Wintermist
12.15.2013 , 03:40 PM | #59
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I don't need to stick my hand into a toaster for 15 minutes to get the full experience, thank you.
And that's as far as we get when discussing with you. Total avoidance of the topic at hand. Great, let's ignore eachother in the future.
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Infernixx
12.15.2013 , 03:47 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Wintermist View Post
And that's as far as we get when discussing with you. Total avoidance of the topic at hand. Great, let's ignore eachother in the future.
All I said was find a better example of a successful sandbox game because EVE is a horrible game.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
There is no excuse for any single use item to ever cost more than a month's subscription. Anyone who pays $10 or $20 for a single use item is hastening the death of TOR and feeding the rise of TOR:The Cash Shop Menace.