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DarthDymond
12.14.2013 , 06:32 PM | #21
I think adding dynamic events beyond what we've seen with the Gree event would be good for the game - I'm curious just how the new Rakghoul Event is going to play out in that regard.

BUT considering "events" like that the only sort of content that counts towards not having the game feel "abandoned" is kind of ridiculous. We've had new Ops, new FPs, new recurring events, new PVP maps/modes, and now GSF. I get that some of these modes aren't for everyone, but if *none* of it is doing anything for ya, you may want to find a game that caters specifically to the niche you're looking for.
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Because shipping a star wars game with a sub-par arcade on-rail shooter that looks like something i could get on my ipad then slightly improving it 2 years later is an exceptional example of Bioware's commitment to content.
How many Star Wars games in recent memory have had more in-depth space modes that that?

Going back as far as KotOR II (which had a similar on-rails minigame) the only ones I can think of are Battlefront II (I never played the PSP Battlefronts, did they have space?) and SWG - Jump to Lightspeed. Empire at War had space combat in a tactical sense, but no twitch space fighting. I don't think there was any space combat in The Force Unleashed series, any of the "Clone Wars" branded games, the Clone Commando series, the Star War Kinect game, or Lethal Alliance.

I think GSF wins "Best Star Wars Space Game of the last 8 years" by default.
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Zorvan
12.14.2013 , 07:35 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
I think adding dynamic events beyond what we've seen with the Gree event would be good for the game - I'm curious just how the new Rakghoul Event is going to play out in that regard.

BUT considering "events" like that the only sort of content that counts towards not having the game feel "abandoned" is kind of ridiculous. We've had new Ops, new FPs, new recurring events, new PVP maps/modes, and now GSF. I get that some of these modes aren't for everyone, but if *none* of it is doing anything for ya, you may want to find a game that caters specifically to the niche you're looking for.

How many Star Wars games in recent memory have had more in-depth space modes that that?

Going back as far as KotOR II (which had a similar on-rails minigame) the only ones I can think of are Battlefront II (I never played the PSP Battlefronts, did they have space?) and SWG - Jump to Lightspeed. Empire at War had space combat in a tactical sense, but no twitch space fighting. I don't think there was any space combat in The Force Unleashed series, any of the "Clone Wars" branded games, the Clone Commando series, the Star War Kinect game, or Lethal Alliance.

I think GSF wins "Best Star Wars Space Game of the last 8 years" by default.
EAware copied SOE's Clone Wars mmo, you know that right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXLv7wUDMw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfu_wsdkk
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weejohnathon
12.14.2013 , 07:40 PM | #23
Although I won't turn down more content, I don't think chucking tons of events at us is the way to go. For me the game does feel stale (I'll go with that) and it doesn't for me feel like BioWare is trying to make this game awesome. I think their taking as much shortcuts as possible tbh. Yes we got some new content but its the same things dailies mostly. What I'd personally like to see is BioWare take a risk, get back to the creative routes and amaze us like they can do. Once BioWare start putting real effort back into the quality of the game like they do with their other titles these threads will disappear.

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TheNahash
12.14.2013 , 07:41 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
EAware copied SOE's Clone Wars mmo, you know that right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXLv7wUDMw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfu_wsdkk
That's on rails and, at least looks like, PVE not PVP.
If anything, it's more like the Space Combat we had before the GS, not the GS itself.
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Zorvan
12.14.2013 , 07:50 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
That's on rails and, at least looks like, PVE not PVP.
If anything, it's more like the Space Combat we had before the GS, not the GS itself.
Please. GSF is on a rail, the rail is just disguised as a bubble now. You have the "freedom" to attack the points in the center of the bubble and the other people attempting to attack the points in the circle. That's it.

And it's still the craptastic "hanging christmas ornament puppet" spaceship you're "flying".
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DarthDymond
12.14.2013 , 07:55 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
EAware copied SOE's Clone Wars mmo, you know that right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXLv7wUDMw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfu_wsdkk
Forgot about that game: ok, SWTOR doesn't win by default - pre-GSF SWTOR was in a dead heat with Clone Wars Adventures and post-GSF SWTOR has more Space content than any other SW games in a long while.

Don't get me wrong, I hope we see a full-on revival of both the Space Flight Sim Genre and SW's participation in it (and with games like Star Citizen generating so much buzz we may actually see more such games than we have since the days of Freespace II).

I just don't think the last decade supports the idea that EA/BW was phoning things in by "only" including a Star Fox minigame for their space content - that's more than most SW games had done.
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JPryde
12.14.2013 , 07:59 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
Please. GSF is on a rail, the rail is just disguised as a bubble now. You have the "freedom" to attack the points in the center of the bubble and the other people attempting to attack the points in the circle. That's it.

And it's still the craptastic "hanging christmas ornament puppet" spaceship you're "flying".
Just so I understand you right... you see a 3D-environment in which I can steer a starship in the direction that I want without limitations, as long as I stay within the 3D-area at all... as "on rails" ?

So anything beyond an infinite universe is a rail shooter now??
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Wintermist
12.14.2013 , 08:02 PM | #28
I think they should have certain events always be active, to add more life to the game. Bounty Hunting for example, and also create new events that people can take up on doing instead of always just questing as usual. Just add overall more LIFE to it, well, on top of polishing up what we already have of course.

There is so much that could be done I think. If they wanted it.
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Yuppy
12.14.2013 , 08:12 PM | #29
OP +1 for saying alllll of that and using 3 periods.
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Uh... MMO's are not for people who have a "..couple of hours or so per week". Changing MMO's to cater to people who have no business playing MMO's has almost ruined the entire industry. But why stop there?

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Blackholeskipper
12.14.2013 , 08:14 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
EAware copied SOE's Clone Wars mmo, you know that right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frXLv7wUDMw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfu_wsdkk
Nah, they copied Star Conflict, which has been out for around a year already. Just compare the gameplay.

Star Conflict:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg41o0TkBCg
GSF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrfmJt3l4gY