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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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StaticSilence
12.13.2013 , 01:08 PM | #6731
A qq solo pug pvp forum whiner is "a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

William Shakespeare clearly had gaming on his mind when he wrote that.


And now comes my standard copy-paste response to threads like these.
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You're assuming that because they're in the same wz they're on voip together. That's not always true. Sometimes I solo queue, i'm not on voip, and just happen to get in a match with other guildies.

Having a 4 man isn't even a guarantee to win anyways. True it's a tactical advantage if they're are coordinated. However, even with voip and coordination we have still lost matches. The 4man is not an invincible, unstoppable force.

Besides, this is an mmo and grouping up into guilds is encouraged. Teamplay is one of the defining benchmarks of mmo mechanics. If you insist on being solo that is your choice- you accept the limitations you place upon yourself.
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-- The Speyside Legacy --
"Once more, unto the breach."

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Zoom_VI
12.13.2013 , 01:10 PM | #6732
This thread should be published as a full novel with the title of "MMO's are proof of how humanity is losing its ablity to have intelligent discussions."
Crinn

Sanity is for the weak minded.

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StaticSilence
12.13.2013 , 01:41 PM | #6733
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
This thread should be published as a full novel with the title of "MMO's are proof of how humanity is losing its ablity to have intelligent discussions."
the book title is not catchy enough. Gotta sell it as: MMOs: Herp to the Derp.
-- Guild: Gentlemen Gankers / Server: The Bastion --
Vickers, gunslinger | Deadlyburrito, vanguard | Staticsilence, commando
-- The Speyside Legacy --
"Once more, unto the breach."

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Vember
12.13.2013 , 01:47 PM | #6734
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
This thread should be published as a full novel with the title of "MMO's are proof of how humanity is losing its ablity to have intelligent discussions."
Uncle Sam or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Premade

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Master_Nate
12.13.2013 , 01:53 PM | #6735
Quote: Originally Posted by Helig View Post
Two words. Queue synching.
Still, doesn't Solo Q ranked at least appease to pugs? If EVERY solo star or pug did as they were intended to do, Q solo ranked, then wouldn't it be MUCH harder for any guild to accomplish Queue synching? You will get a few who still manage to pull it off, but if matchmaking works as devs say, wouldn't that eventually get harder and harder to do?

Queue synching is a big problem, I agree...but MMOs tend to evolve and while Queue synching happens now, since a handful of people Queue, do you not think it would cease to exist except in a rare instance? Hard to analyze the data when there is no data available to analyze.

Not poking at you by any means Helig, but when I come back at a poster concerning ranked queue, all the premade haters just dodge my questions or they give an excuse about queue synching. Thing is, people are being selfish and want it their way. Problem with that is that it's EA's way or no way. I say this without any intent of bashing the game or coming off as a fanboy(cause I'm definitely not) but it's time for people to help them out.

They don't respond anymore so it seems bleek and since there is no sheriff the crowd goes nuts, but I do believe they are reading. It's got to be hard to go through all the threads here and every time they open their mouth, they are interpreted wrong and so what's the point? They won't say anything that will make everyone happy. I used to think they should speak more too but not with how the people here can be and plus they listened in the past and it backfires. Ranked 8 was a flop, arenas are a flop, solo q is a flop, so what is left? If they mess with reg WZs, they could end up killing what's left of their own game(PvP anyways)

We all know they suck at this aspect(PvP) of the game. Sure they can write awesome stories but they have no clue on where to begin with PvP and to me, it's because they get jerked around so much, they are just shooting in the dark. Take this premade crap for instance...they gave the game SOLO Q for people that hate premades. People have been asking for it forever. So why don't you solo people do it?

Queue sync can not be the only reason and if it is then you have no reason to complain about premades in warzones. They gave you the only option they can afford to do at this point. My opinion, they underestimated how many folks liked objective based gameplay vs deathmatch based on this forums constant bickering.

You have this guy, UncleSam, necro every post who claims to be a founder(as if this holds any meaning) and here since launch right? He hates premades in Warzones right? So why doesn't he Q solo ranked? He has no reason not too. When asked, he avoids the question and just spouts off "ERMERGHERD BLAH BLAH SOLO AHHH". Again, I know Queue synching is the easiest excuse to give but it's because people are not trying. Just look at his post below:

Quote: Originally Posted by UncelSam View Post
And some, me for instance, dont wanna be hooked to a Group of two reasons:
1) PUG stomping with my fully geared lvl 55 character is just plain boring and on top of that i hamper and slow down the progress of others grinding up thier toons in regular pvp WZs.

2) I dont have time to find a Group each time I want to pvp. And most times I have to leave the computer after one WZ since I have a big family that needs attendance, and therefor I cant be hooked to Group that would have to be awaiting for me all the time. I want pvp to be more easy to access, and whenI pvp with my other low lvl toons I dont want to be stomped by Premades 95% of the time.
He has a fully geared 55, so double you tee eff? These people are the problem, not premades necessarily. I will admit that premades do have their own issues with ranked 4 mans and their avoidance of them due to people hating arenas, or FOTM comp teams, but these threads all discuss one thing, premade vs pug/solo not why premades are IN warzones. Easy to say that premades get their jollies off on crushing people, and I'm sure they do. I just don't think that's the ONLY reason there is no ranked activity...

I feel like this concept is not hard to understand but Unclesam over here is just hell bent on his own cause that I don't even think he knows what he is complaining about anymore. He's just lost it after being here for 2 years. I've seen many supporters of this game snap and go crazy during my time in this game. It's easier to unsub and move on. I'm not advocating to unsub, it is however, what I've done. I don't feel the need to start 100 threads to discuss why either. It only hurts the game I've loved for 2 years and doesn't do anything for anyone. I want this game to succeed and I want it to improve. Unfortunately, a lot of people do not feel the same way once they reach a certain point.
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UncelSam
12.13.2013 , 01:53 PM | #6736
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
Uncle Sam or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Premade
Vember or : How I lost my Brains and let the game kill itself.

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Vember
12.13.2013 , 01:56 PM | #6737
Quote: Originally Posted by UncelSam View Post
Vember or : How I lost my Brains and let the game kill itself.
Come on, you should have figured out by now that I think people that premade in the pug queues are carebears.

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UncelSam
12.13.2013 , 01:56 PM | #6738
Master_Nate : You are just blbblering, theres no Point in your looooong post. Sigh. Good luck with your next game.

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Technohic
12.13.2013 , 01:57 PM | #6739
Technohic: F**king H**l! Why the F am I Reading This?

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UncelSam
12.13.2013 , 01:57 PM | #6740
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
Haven't you read any of my posts? I think people that premade in the pug queues are about as carebear as you can get. You're just the biggest anti premade advocate around here, so i used your name in place of Dr. Strangelove.
I know stranglove. Whats your Point? Theres nothign contructive in what u write. Nothing to see, move on, next plz.