Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

Premades are not the ones who are ruining PvP. If anything playing against better team of players makes you learn stuff. .

You can que with friends ... in Ranked WZ... no problemo




You say grouped is dead but people enjoy running with friends.... so either you are a bunch of dead people in a group or you are contradicting yourself here. Grouped is alive and thriving but they took the easy way and started queuing in normal. Hence this thread exists.

For all of those hating premades and wishing their death/removal from regular warzones... have people considered that not all premades even like Arena? Sure this problem has been brought up over and over and I get it...solo peeps and pugs alike want an equal chance at winning and take to the forums to rant about it once they encounter a faceroll. I don't disagree with having it as premades vs premades so please don't take that away from my post. I just don't think forcing players into a game type that they do not like is the answer though. It only alienates whats left of the PvP community even more.

I personally think that if 8v8 was not removed and they simply introduced 4 man arena Ranked paired with the option of 8v8 RWZ, then pugs WOULD have their regular warzones or at least they wouldn't be filled with so many premades. I just don't get how other posters put the blame on premades and/or guilds that Q together. It's what an MMO should be about.

I also tend to think that solo q ranked even took away from 4 man ranked arena interest. It is my belief they should have held the release of solo q back for a little time so that people would experience 4 man ranked a tad longer. As it is now, it's just to easy to just say eff it and yolo q. Players hardly even care to form a team at this point when q syncing with a guildie or two is easier. The ones who do form up don't last when solo q is an easy exit and way to bolster their "status" in this game to whatever meaning that holds for them. PvP game modes in this game are a mess, have always been a mess, and it only gets worse for me unfortunately. PvP itself is fun, the options to PvP not so much.

I still love the warzone type objective based game play but as someone who runs in a premade(because friends are fun) and doesn't particularly care for arena style game type, this game is losing me. We would Q and get same team for an hour, then no one for next 45 mins. Things need implementing here, duo q for regs and ranked would help some I think.

To the posters in this thread who hate premades and want all premades to leave regular q and go be with "our own kind", you'll get your wish eventually.

you can queue without friends... in ranked WZ... no problemo

So let me get this straight; You want to group but justify not grouping in ranked because you are afraid of getting beat ....So you que in normal so you can beat pugs?

If this isn't bully mentality, I don't know what is.

So BW should shaft others who like to group up just to make you happy? Force people to queue solo instead of being able to play along side friends just because you prefer to queue solo?

Someone is a little self centered I'd say.

You can't force people to play ranked just because they want to play grouped up with their friends. I can assume all the people who are against premades have little to no experience playing in a ranked setting so they really have no idea what it's like.

So tell me UncleSam and Marrius how many ranked 8v8 or 4v4 Areans have you played in that you feel you can recommend it to all people wishing to premade?

awe jade is school out so early? .... anyways... not biting the troll,


Merry Christmas!

Here's an analogy.

Ever watch Soccer? Think of it in terms of the English Premier League. All the teams get to choose their players right? Does that mean that the team that is at the bottom of the table in the Second Division is gonna have a fair fight against Arsenal or Manchester United? Nope. They're not.

Now they all technically have the same advantages right? They get to choose all 11 players in their team? They have the same access to formations and managers and players and what not (let's assume money is not an issue here).

But there's still a matchmaking system in place. Some unknown just-formed club doesn't have to face ManU on it's first day.

The same way, a premade of bads has no reason to step into Ranked 4v4 the first day and get absolutely destroyed. Everyone has to start somewhere, and that start should logically be Regs.

So by your reaoning it is bad for a newly formed football team to play Man U but it is ok for them to go to a father and son scrimmage and kick the crap out of them?

LOL! You can't be that obtuse... really?

Listen, 8v8 ranked is gone because premades ruined it for themselves. Now they want to continue ruining things for normal WZs. And still some of you have the audacity to call us qqers and whiners? ROFL!!!

That being said, the fault does not lay with you. We are all only human and by nature opportunistic. BW should have seen this before it happened and implimented programming to prevent it.

Better matchmaking, no groups in normal wz, and don't remove 8v8 ranked. These are just a few things that should have been done (or not done) from the start.

So what say we stop raging on each other and start raging on those fools in Austin Texas who allowed this fuster cluck in the first place. hmmmm?

Please, lay off the patronizing attitude. PuGs don't by default occupy some higher moral ground that you can give arguments like "The fault isn't yours' guys" or something. And my analogy had nothing to do with PuGs at all. It was entirely about your comment that all premades belong in Ranked 4v4 and 8v8. Clearly a wrong comment.

Matchmaking? HELL YES. Everyone on the premade and on the PuG side is completely in support of this.

That and better incentives to do Ranked too. Vanity items, removal of conversion of comms to Ranked comms, and other stuff so the good premades will want to go there to fight.

But banning premades from regular wzs? No, still against that. Always was, and always will be.