Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Premades are ruining non-ranked warzones

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Marrius

12.12.2013 , 04:15 AM \| #6561	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ren_simp I've post in here before I've said all I'm going to on the matter You have an emotional view of group pvp that often leads to fantasy land Merry Christmas Sparky

Marrius

12.12.2013 , 04:28 AM \| #6562	Quote
Insults...? check Uninsightful remarks...? check Baseless accusations...? check Ahhhh! School must be out. Anyways, I'll say it again... If the normal que did not allow group joining (i.e. premades) and ranked ONLY allowed groups, then we would see at least a couple of things: 1) No change in que times 2) A place where casual players can have fun too. 3) A place where someone like myself and my friends could que up and meet other groups (thats right I am a premade fan ...but only against other premades) 4) An even playing field where the chances to win are approximate to the chances to loose. The arguments against this have proven weak at best but please I invite someone to prove me wrong. PS. unintelligent trolling will simply get a Merry Christmas followed by a restating of my idea (just to ensure that my posts stay on topic)

UncelSam

12.12.2013 , 05:46 AM \| #6563	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrius Insults...? check Uninsightful remarks...? check Baseless accusations...? check Ahhhh! School must be out. Anyways, I'll say it again... If the normal que did not allow group joining (i.e. premades) and ranked ONLY allowed groups, then we would see at least a couple of things: 1) No change in que times 2) A place where casual players can have fun too. 3) A place where someone like myself and my friends could que up and meet other groups (thats right I am a premade fan ...but only against other premades) 4) An even playing field where the chances to win are approximate to the chances to loose. The arguments against this have proven weak at best but please I invite someone to prove me wrong. PS. unintelligent trolling will simply get a Merry Christmas followed by a restating of my idea (just to ensure that my posts stay on topic) Hear Hear! Well spoken! The major argument that the premades are yelling is that ranked q takes too long. That is NOT a accpetable ground to keep bullying us PUGs with thier presence in regular WZs. The Premades have to bring this up with the devs! Not to come bully us in regular WZs. We PUG also deserve a equal battleground to have FUN and NOT being bullyed around facing impossible odds. This really have to end now, if not few and few will play this game until its shutdown for good. We are not far away from that now.

Ren_simp

12.12.2013 , 05:53 AM \| #6564	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrius Insults...? check Uninsightful remarks...? check Baseless accusations...? check Ahhhh! School must be out. Anyways, I'll say it again... If the normal que did not allow group joining (i.e. premades) and ranked ONLY allowed groups, then we would see at least a couple of things: 1) No change in que times 2) A place where casual players can have fun too. 3) A place where someone like myself and my friends could que up and meet other groups (thats right I am a premade fan ...but only against other premades) 4) An even playing field where the chances to win are approximate to the chances to loose. The arguments against this have proven weak at best but please I invite someone to prove me wrong. PS. unintelligent trolling will simply get a Merry Christmas followed by a restating of my idea (just to ensure that my posts stay on topic) All the things you listed are available within the current game For example everyone can form groups with friends guild member or from general and join a warzone or ranked arena I don't see the problem

Wainamoinen

12.12.2013 , 05:58 AM \| #6565	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EzioMessi I'm actially curious to know where Bioware mentions third-party software in their ToS. I remember reading in a yellow post that any software that automates actions like macros can be made to do are banned. But where exactly is all this mentioned? I would go through it myself, but reading walls of text on my ipod isn't fun People are confused about the term "third party software", taking it to mean any non-SWTOR software running at the same time as playing SWTOR. This is obviously nonsense. Relevant section from their End User Access and License Agreement: Quote: Originally Posted by SWTOR EUALA It is also strictly prohibited to use any third-party software or any other device with a view to modifying the Software in any way, intercepting or scanning Game traffic or communications, changing the way the Game plays or playing in an abnormal manner or in a way that could impair the correct operation of the Game. Such prohibited third party software or devices can include, but are not limited to, those in the nature of "addons", "hacks", "cheats", "trainers", "mods", or the like by any name. Link to whole doc The banned "third-party software" is only that which interferes with the game's operation or intercepts its data traffic. VOIP programs (or web browsers for that matter) do neither, and so are legal. TL;DR: Voice comms are not against the TOS, in case anyone was in any doubt.
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UncelSam

12.12.2013 , 05:59 AM \| #6566	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ren_simp All the things you listed are available within the current game For example everyone can form groups with friends guild member or from general and join a warzone or ranked arena I don't see the problem Everyone dont want to be part of a team in pvp, but rather pvp casual when its fits them. Premades already have thier own WZ, its called ranked. Go there and wreck hell, but plz leave the regular WZs alone.

EzioMessi

12.12.2013 , 06:03 AM \| #6567	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Wainamoinen People are confused about the term "third party software", taking it to mean any non-SWTOR software running at the same time as playing SWTOR. This is obviously nonsense. Relevant section from their End User Access and License Agreement: Link to whole doc The banned "third-party software" is only that which interferes with the game's operation or intercepts its data traffic. VOIP programs (or web browsers for that matter) do neither, and so are legal. TL;DR: Voice comms are not against the TOS, in case anyone was in any doubt. Ah, so my guess a few pages bak was right. Thanks for the link.
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UncelSam

12.12.2013 , 06:06 AM \| #6568	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EzioMessi Ah, so my guess a few pages bak was right. Thanks for the link. Just remove the premades from regular WZs and the problem is solved. All in the premade WZs will have the same programs running, and it will be a balanced fight. End of story

Cordorian

12.12.2013 , 06:16 AM \| #6569	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrius Insults...? check Uninsightful remarks...? check Baseless accusations...? check Ahhhh! School must be out. Anyways, I'll say it again... If the normal que did not allow group joining (i.e. premades) and ranked ONLY allowed groups, then we would see at least a couple of things: 1) No change in que times 2) A place where casual players can have fun too. 3) A place where someone like myself and my friends could que up and meet other groups (thats right I am a premade fan ...but only against other premades) 4) An even playing field where the chances to win are approximate to the chances to loose. The arguments against this have proven weak at best but please I invite someone to prove me wrong. PS. unintelligent trolling will simply get a Merry Christmas followed by a restating of my idea (just to ensure that my posts stay on topic) 4) is impossible sorry. Skill differential, class balance, server population, rage quitters, fraction imbalance, day time and random grouping up can't guarantee you an even playing field. At least in PUGs this is impossible and with or without premades there will be a plenty of stomping. And we had Nostrum Dolus on the server, guess what, they even stomped you in ranked (8v8), you couldn't even leave spawn. Same in normals even when there was just 2 of them. You and I might not like it, maybe nobody, there will always be some imbalance in PVP. btw i would really love premade wzs back, but even it was i would still like to have the chance to just group up with some friends and pvp a little in normal wzs, what else is there to do in this game?

RaptorClown

12.12.2013 , 06:18 AM \| #6570	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by cycao High school kids giving you a hard time? hahahaha
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