This Crap Needs to go... NOW!

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This Crap Needs to go... NOW!

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Arumat

12.23.2011 , 09:35 PM \| #51	Quote
Really, games have no avoidance from the back for a reason. to say getting behind a target is an exploit is stupid. Thats like saying power slides is an exploit in a race. This is like that stupid feature in forza where all you do is hold the accelerate button the ENTIRE time knowing the game will brake for you accordingly. If you needed that handicap I am surprised you even pvp till this day.

EvanSnowWolf

12.23.2011 , 09:38 PM \| #52	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Arumat Really, games have no avoidance from the back for a reason. to say getting behind a target is an exploit is stupid. Getting behind a target is fine. We have abilities in this game that REQUIRE it. But using it to turn into some sort of adrenal-pumped, sugar overdosed dreidel for the EXPLICIT purpose of preventing the other person from acting as a way to abuse the targeting rules is taking it much farther than simply meeting the requirements for "must be behind the target".
"But you know how it is, cows go moo, dogs go woof, and mmo players go the pvp is unbalanced." - Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw.

Sedisp

12.23.2011 , 09:44 PM \| #53	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EvanSnowWolf Getting behind a target is fine. We have abilities in this game that REQUIRE it. But using it to turn into some sort of adrenal-pumped, sugar overdosed dreidel for the EXPLICIT purpose of preventing the other person from acting as a way to abuse the targeting rules is taking it much farther than simply meeting the requirements for "must be behind the target". You can make that argument about 3/4 of the actions in the game. Stop kiting a melee class you're preventing him from acting.

EvanSnowWolf

12.23.2011 , 09:46 PM \| #54	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sedisp You can make that argument about 3/4 of the actions in the game. Stop kiting a melee class you're preventing him from acting. Hitting =/= acting. A kiter still has to deal with him taking actions like Force Leap, snares of his own, etc. Circle Strafing doesn't have a "cc breaker".
"But you know how it is, cows go moo, dogs go woof, and mmo players go the pvp is unbalanced." - Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw.

Arumat

12.23.2011 , 09:47 PM \| #55	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EvanSnowWolf Getting behind a target is fine. We have abilities in this game that REQUIRE it. But using it to turn into some sort of adrenal-pumped, sugar overdosed dreidel for the EXPLICIT purpose of preventing the other person from acting as a way to abuse the targeting rules is taking it much farther than simply meeting the requirements for "must be behind the target". No, it really isnt. You can all say what you want but that is not true at all. All games have it. Just because your not good at macroing your skills and pvping at the same time is not an issue with the game. Would you say cornering in a fighting game is an exploit? No its not, but some people just call it cheap because they can't handle it. You all just needed to learn to handle your ****. This auto facing seems like it was ment for pve anyway and something they didnt consider for pvp. Me personally, I am not having a big deal with this auto facing, but I am speaking because I hate stupidity. With that said, all you un-unique insulters that dont agree will just call me the same.

Sedisp

12.23.2011 , 09:53 PM \| #56	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EvanSnowWolf Hitting =/= acting. A kiter still has to deal with him taking actions like Force Leap, snares of his own, etc. Circle Strafing doesn't have a "cc breaker". Yeah it does. It's called kiting and stunning. See traversal velocity decreases the further you get from the target. Again if melee has no advantage of being in melee range besides actually being able to do damage they need to be severely buffed or ranged needs a reason to stay at range. You have made no logical argument against any of these points. Your entire thing is you dislike it. Which is weird as this game is clearly designed for circle strafing what with it having positional requirements at all.

lectotrans

12.23.2011 , 11:59 PM \| #57	Quote
channels auto-facing is not an exploit.
Squadron 14-610Playing TOR since Beta Now playing on Canderous Ordo! Suung on PTS

lectotrans

12.24.2011 , 12:01 AM \| #58	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Arumat No, it really isnt. You can all say what you want but that is not true at all. All games have it. Just because your not good at macroing your skills and pvping at the same time is not an issue with the game. Would you say cornering in a fighting game is an exploit? No its not, but some people just call it cheap because they can't handle it. You all just needed to learn to handle your ****. This auto facing seems like it was ment for pve anyway and something they didnt consider for pvp. Me personally, I am not having a big deal with this auto facing, but I am speaking because I hate stupidity. With that said, all you un-unique insulters that dont agree will just call me the same. actually at one time, any time that you targeted someone you were always auto facing them in pvp. so they took almost all auto facing out of pvp, except for channels. happy medium.
Squadron 14-610Playing TOR since Beta Now playing on Canderous Ordo! Suung on PTS

Delove

12.24.2011 , 12:31 AM \| #59	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by EvanSnowWolf Circle stafing is not a rule.. it is an exploit. Your are basically admitting that your skill is lacking and you need to take advantage of a targeting flaw that's been in place in WoW since day one, and now that your precious elitist attack style is threatened, you act like everyone that doesn't believe in it is the scrub. Wrong. That's the dumbest thing i ever heard a exploit lol? And how is your skill lacking if u circle strafe assassins get crap damage with out using maul and u need to be behind your target so u must be mad that u keyboard turn and dont want others to kill u while doing it

MercenaryXx

12.24.2011 , 12:41 AM \| #60	Quote
I blame it on the whole cover mechanic. This single feature could prove to be a nightmare to balance. I think we should wait until the huge lag issue is solved first. Laggy FPS and laggy input commands.

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