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NO Addons please. There is another solution!


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Powercord
12.23.2011 , 03:21 PM | #151
I personally like the idea of parses, I play a tank in everygame and I like to know what my party is doing right/wrong. I don't do flashpoints with pugs or when I do I hardly care enough to look at the meters. I'm not saying MUST IMPLEMENT ADDONS NOWWWWW I would just like a combat log for someone to make a program to look at parses with. The idea of a "Scoreboard" at the end of a Flashpoint is a great idea but maybe add to it, why not allow a "Copy" of everything done in the flashpoint. Sure it may take a bit to download to your drive but I'd love to AFK for 5 min while it downloads and I can look at it after to see my group is doing well. Making fun of scrubs/baddies will always be around, the people I group with laugh at people doing bad and try to help in a constructive/sarcastic way, however; we will carry someone through an instance/raid if we have to as long as they learn something from it.

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Uzilara
12.23.2011 , 04:32 PM | #152
if you don't like addons, don't use them...now give me a recount like addon so i can see what i do wrong and where i can improve.

and above all: give me addons so i can customize my ui the way i like it and not like it is set in stone now.

I know BW is working on the UI interface but as there are so many people, they can never do good for everyone, so just open the game for addons.

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BeBenNova
12.23.2011 , 06:53 PM | #153
So from reading this thread one thing is clear

Scrubs are afraid of being kicked out of a group because they're a liability to the team because they don't do their job well enough because they ''want to enjoy the game'' and not read up on their class and learn how to better themselves as players.

Give me a combat log and a DPS meter already so i can be the best that i can be

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halfhourofpower
12.23.2011 , 07:35 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Makais View Post
I read a lot about people missing addons. "I need healbots, dpsmeters, threatmeter..." You can do just fine without these, it's just a different game, we just have to adapt. Healbot, for instance, turns a very interesting game into something pulled out of a 90's Nintendo!
As for the meters, I have a suggestion: an <End Flashpoint/Operation Report>, just like in the end of Warzones. Voilá, you can consult who's doing their jobs right. DPS, Healing, Protection, MVP vote also (why not?)... It's all there.
Please NO addons. Don't turn this very enjoyable game into a big load of numbers popping out of my screen...


P.S. I do admit that some customization options on UI are needed.
I actually love this idea.
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Sunshinegasm
12.24.2011 , 12:51 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by Zhazam View Post
My experience there is WoW and how it changed the community.

People are competitive so even in a group they want to compete. In some cases that's good, but there are simply too many people who are competative in such a way that for them it's more important than anything else in that group, that it turns the group into a "me versus the rest" ordeal where all they care about it being on top of the DPS meters.
You can't blame add-ons solely for the community changes in WoW. For as long as that game has been around, the fluctuation of community interaction has changed drastically from year to year.

Also, competitiveness is a part of any game. I feel you're making comparisons that aren't fair. You can't compare this community to that of WoW. You can't assume that just because there's a chance that add-ons will be implemented in this particular game that the outcome will be a rise of elitist jerkwads that will "ruin" the game play experience. And honestly, even if add-ons aren't implemented, its like I said before, if someone is going to be "I'm better than you" they won't need an add-on to say/do/show that.
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ShreddedRocks
12.24.2011 , 02:46 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Zlodo View Post
There's more to addons than the various stupid pve metrics addons. I don't want to be unable to customize the ui to the extent I want to for the sake of avoiding the existence of a few pve addons that are probably harmless anyway.

And no, they can't just add more customization options to the ui instead. There's a million different ways to go about setting up your ui and they can't possibly build all of them into the game.
This. For the last year when i played WoW, i found Spartanui, it was truly beautiful. I loved it compared to the default ui.

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Andrewie
12.24.2011 , 03:50 AM | #157
I wouldn't mind some ui customization. But I wouldn't want to see addons such as recount, healbot and omen. Those do more harm than good in my opinion.

Healbot (click casting on unitframes) turns healing into a boring minigame.
Recount makes people focus way way too much on output rather than tactics and their surroundings.
Omen.... well. Its cool to have a visual indicator that you are about to gain or loose aggro, but I would prefer to not know how close I am until very close.

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Utorian
12.24.2011 , 06:25 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeppelin View Post
This. Why ruin other people's game play because of something you don't like. Until the day that a developer can make a UI that caters to the preferences of millions of different users, add-ons will have their place.

And if something like Healbot is really an issue, the developer can simply break the add-on through the API.
Right back at ya!

Why ruin other peoples game play because of something you like?

Simple thing is guys, this IS NOT WOW! It's a whole new game that is less than a month old. I am sure the devs have a few tricks up their sleaves and are just waiting for the right time to implement them. DPS meters and they likes should never be implemented in this game. If you want to see who is performing in a raid or instance, take a look at who is dead at the end, easy really. Allot of addons that were used over in WoW took all the skill out of the game, heck we ended up with addons that even told you where to stand for crying out load and even ones that made you spell icons sparkle "use this now"!

I have to admit though I do like a customisable UI. As a healer its nice to be able to move bars about and raid frames and this will be here soon as the devs have already said they working on it. I say we just wait and see what their effort is on this then go from there.

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nix_crash
12.24.2011 , 07:04 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Makais View Post
I read a lot about people missing addons. "I need healbots, dpsmeters, threatmeter..." You can do just fine without these, it's just a different game, we just have to adapt.
yeah, I Live on the first floor too and the guys at the 7nth are always whining about the elevator, they should just do like me, I never use it and I'm fine!

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frecklesmoker
12.24.2011 , 07:16 AM | #160
Personally the only addons I find myself wanting are data addons that are attributed to crafting. Like one that tells me what kinda stuff a certain toon can make while I am off farming or making it. Personally this game is screaming for data addons.