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So where are all these Assassins dominating the leader boards?

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So where are all these Assassins dominating the leader boards?

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fungihoujo
11.22.2013 , 03:31 AM | #181
Solo
Assassin/Shadow- 14
Sorc/Sage- 8
Mara/Sent- 22
Guardian/Jugg- 4
Sniper/Guns- 7
Scoundrel/Op- 17
Powertech/Van- 27
Comm/Merc- 1

Group
Assassin/Shadow- 6
Sorc/Sage- 11
Mara/Sent- 25
Guardian/Jugg- 5
Sniper/Guns- 4
Scoundrel/Op- 25
Powertech/Van- 29
Comm/Merc- 2

I want to point out that this pretty much means on average, ranked arena teams have the composition of;
Powertech, Operative, Marauder, One other- oh, and the one other has as good a chance of being a sniper, merc or juggernaut as it does a second PT.

PT/Op/Mara- that's pretty much all it comes down to, and is it a surprise? People have been talking about the dps of PTs and marauders since April of last year, as well as the healing survivability of ops.

I don't think this is a case of the sin/shadow being worse than the PT/Mara, as I have one of every class now and have pvped with each of them. I think the main difference is this- it's very easy to get amazing results as a PT/Mara, a Sin is harder to play well, and thus isn't looked at quite as much. Same deal with a sniper, class requires you to be very conscious of your positioning, which can make the layered, cover ridden arena zones even more of a pain.

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Evolixe
11.22.2013 , 05:43 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by JP_Legatus View Post
Did you even watch this stream?
Game 1 - r1: turrican dies first
Game 1 - r2: turrican dies first
Game 2 - r2: turrican dies first
Game 3 - r1: turrican dies first
Game 4 - wasn't even against MVP, other team 0-2'd in short order
Game 5 - MARA died first, can't explain that with any amount of logic so it's safe to disregard.

IIRC that guy is supposed to be some kind of superpro, idk who he is but people talk about him like hes an amazing sin. So you can't say it's lack of talent.

Somehow from this stream you gather sins are doing just fine.

It's a good thing I have no life or you people would be getting away with all kinds of fraud.
Lol of course he dies first.. he is tanking.. Are you seriously that retarded?

And I'm a little more careful with calling him a "superpro".
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Beansoup
11.22.2013 , 06:14 AM | #183
Leaderboards don't mean a crap, that whole system is bugged beyond belief.
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AlrikFassbauer
11.22.2013 , 07:05 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by JP_Legatus View Post
I've done plenty of ranked, again you are doing nothin but spam ignorance and baseless conjecture.
No, the fact that you have literally no data backing you up while I have plenty is what makes it a fact.

You can spam more stupidity about how I don't play ranked because I'm inactive for 1 week or you can actually know what you're talking about and/or just check my stream
Using the word "spam" twice in an reply is actually "spam", too.
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TarristerWelm
11.22.2013 , 07:42 AM | #185
How did a team from the bastion play a team from pot5? 4 people pay for transfers?
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Corsin
11.22.2013 , 07:55 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Beansoup View Post
Leaderboards don't mean a crap, that whole system is bugged beyond belief.
Slightly Disagree...

Solo leaderboards are a measure of how lucky players are with teammates and which classes prosper. Its widely known that Ion cylinder vanguard is out of balance and that shows through the leader-boards quite clearly.... Certainly the only times i lose solo arenas with full teams of decentish players.... are either Op DPS on my team or vanguard/powertech in ion cylinder on the enemy team in a 3 dps and 1 healer game.
But yes solo ranking is hugely dictated by luck and the amount of free time someone has.

Team ranking in theory is fine. However because of how quiet most of the servers are it is highly susceptible to abuse and "rating farming" like i have heard Drama on ToFN does.

Assassins need more sustainable damage. Where a good assassin can currently put out good numbers and have good burst, it is far more demanding than any other class to excel at. Darkmaul is a decent spec, however the damage is still primarily single target, where the PT in ion cylinder just has way more utility and AOE suppression damage. Assassins are useful in solo ques, since alot of games do not have healers, but again its largely down to the luck of the team comp. I would also say OP dps needs a buff aswel. currently the only operatives/scoundrels doing well are healers. Since that's the only viable healer for arenas.


Thats my too cents anyway.
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Technohic
11.22.2013 , 07:58 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
Solo
Assassin/Shadow- 14
Sorc/Sage- 8
Mara/Sent- 22
Guardian/Jugg- 4
Sniper/Guns- 7
Scoundrel/Op- 17
Powertech/Van- 27
Comm/Merc- 1

Group
Assassin/Shadow- 6
Sorc/Sage- 11
Mara/Sent- 25
Guardian/Jugg- 5
Sniper/Guns- 4
Scoundrel/Op- 25
Powertech/Van- 29
Comm/Merc- 2

I want to point out that this pretty much means on average, ranked arena teams have the composition of;
Powertech, Operative, Marauder, One other- oh, and the one other has as good a chance of being a sniper, merc or juggernaut as it does a second PT.

PT/Op/Mara- that's pretty much all it comes down to, and is it a surprise? People have been talking about the dps of PTs and marauders since April of last year, as well as the healing survivability of ops.

I don't think this is a case of the sin/shadow being worse than the PT/Mara, as I have one of every class now and have pvped with each of them. I think the main difference is this- it's very easy to get amazing results as a PT/Mara, a Sin is harder to play well, and thus isn't looked at quite as much. Same deal with a sniper, class requires you to be very conscious of your positioning, which can make the layered, cover ridden arena zones even more of a pain.
Snipers do fine when they do not try to do what they are not supposed to. They can't chase healers around LOS the way their melee counterparts do, even if they go full lethality; they are then squishy as hell running around.. Probably why in PUG ranked, people don't like their sniper/slinger as much. You need more than one DPS on the healer more than likely, or one good one that can CC that healer and clear the others.

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Beansoup
11.22.2013 , 08:14 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Corsin View Post
Slightly Disagree...

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Well, that system is been obviously exploited already to the point where I don't even want to have any ranking status. For it would stamp me as an exploiter, granted, as I can take folks down. I'm even scared to play the game these days.

PS: My main is MM Snipe, I don't even have assasin.
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Wonkanerd
11.22.2013 , 08:34 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Racter View Post
http://www.twitch.tv/matchlessglory/c/3281235 Sin tank in action against MVP tonight.

I believe the R1 European team also runs a Sin tank. Kinda hard to say they aren't in a good place right now.
ehm if you want a really good sin tank action, as you previously said the R1 EU team runs it, check http://www.twitch.tv/roudyzor , that guy is a beast.

What you linked is rather bad gameplay tho .

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Wonkanerd
11.22.2013 , 08:37 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Beansoup View Post
Leaderboards don't mean a crap, that whole system is bugged beyond belief.
Soloqueue doesnt mean much, probably yeah, group rating is kinda the main thing.