ETA on Advanced Class change?

Do you have an actual quote for that?

Ehh I'm pretty sure this will happen just like how I was 100% sure the rakghoul event would make a return and as I was right about that I assume that they will eventually make ac change available. Now if its class change we're talking about that could never happen as companions and story would just render that unusable.

Ehh I'm pretty sure this will happen just like how I was 100% sure the rakghoul event would make a return and as I was right about that I assume that they will eventually make ac change available. Now if its class change we're talking about that could never happen as companions and story would just render that unusable.

I see what you are saying, but I see no real difference between choosing a class at creation and choosing a class at level 10. If I choose the sith inquisitor story and then at level 10 choose assassin, but realize later that I would prefer to play a ranged DPS class over a melee DPS class, I have to reroll. The same goes for "that other game" if I choose to create a rogue, but later realize that I would prefer to play a ranged DPS class, such as hunter. I have to reroll, no matter how attached to that rogue I might be, and no matter what "unique and no longer obtainable items" he may have.

I believe that the actual quote occurred during BETA and as Majik points out, those forums no longer exist. I'm sure you are just as capable of using google as I am, though.

You're the one making a particular claim. The onus is on you to provide support it. Otherwise you're just typing made-up nonsense.

The difference is one of terminology. In WoW, you choose your class at character creation, and in swtor you choose your class at level 10. You may not be required to reroll 10 levels in WoW if you don't like your class (because you chose it at character creation). If you choose a ranged class in WoW, you are ranged from the moment you enter the game. In swtor, what you're really selecting at character creation is your storyline, and there is no such equivalent in WoW. This is where the confusion begins.

The desire behind having AC respecs has its root in a misunderstanding of what Advanced Classes are (WoW people assume they are similar to specializations). In swtor you are introduced to two interrelated systems at level 10, the first is choosing your Advanced Class, the second is choosing which skill tree to spend your first skill point in. Most people confuse the WoW specializations with Advanced Classes, when the equivalent system is the skill tree.

The point of removing the entire concept of base class and advanced class, by renaming advanced classes "class" and letting you choose it at level 1 would be a way of avoiding this confusion. It also has other merits such as the 1-10 experience being a relevant introduction to the classes playstyle, and having trainers only teaching abilities that you actually use as that class (no more unload for powertechs etc).

But why are you in favor of harsh, arbitrary character limitations? I just don't get it. It's BW's job to make player's want to regrind alts (or not - whichever makes the most players happiest for the longest amount of time). Players shouldn't be asking for impositions and backing current ones that are barely defendable.

In a comparison to Wow, not only are advanced classes similar to specializations in terms of when/how they are chosen (and they couldn't be unchosen initially in wow either if i remember right), but they perform very similarly in function as well. There are arguably more differences in Wow between an Arms and Fury warrior than there are between a dps Guardian and Sentinel here. And there are more differences between a druid healer and druid melee dps than any advanced class distinction in this game. That game isn't suffering because players have more options. Some people like playing the same class/story over and over - i'm one who has 6 lvl 50+ knights - but most do not and i think the currently punishing policy hurts player long term and short term enjoyment more than it helps.

I know there are currently some players that get extremely annoyed with any perceived skill or gear issue in other players and they will do anything to minimize their exposure to such. Based on my experiences in other games and this one respecs have not caused significant, recurring problems. It is, in fact, the impatient and intolerant players that are far more often a bigger problem. I don't favor limiting game enhancements in an attempt to mollify or appease them.

But why are you in favor of harsh, arbitrary character limitations? I just don't get it. It's BW's job to make player's want to regrind alts (or not - whichever makes the most players happiest for the longest amount of time). Players shouldn't be asking for impositions and backing current ones that are barely defendable.

In a comparison to Wow, not only are advanced classes similar to specializations in terms of when/how they are chosen (and they couldn't be unchosen initially in wow either if i remember right), but they perform very similarly in function as well. There are arguably more differences in Wow between an Arms and Fury warrior than there are between a dps Guardian and Sentinel here. And there are more differences between a druid healer and druid melee dps than any advanced class distinction in this game. That game isn't suffering because players have more options. Some people like playing the same class/story over and over - i'm one who has 6 lvl 50+ knights - but most do not and i think the currently punishing policy hurts player long term and short term enjoyment more than it helps.

I know there are currently some players that get extremely annoyed with any perceived skill or gear issue in other players and they will do anything to minimize their exposure to such. Based on my experiences in other games and this one respecs have not caused significant, recurring problems. It is, in fact, the impatient and intolerant players that are far more often a bigger problem. I don't favor limiting game enhancements in an attempt to mollify or appease them.

Also, even if someone didn't know how to tank, who the hell cares???? Big deal. They'll either learn (like every other tank did) or they'll switch to DPS or back to whatever they were or they'll quit the game like 2+ million other people have.