ETA on Advanced Class change?

Ah, the beast returns.....

I know right?! I was kinda hoping it had died for good...not the idea and plan to implement it, just the thread.

It will die when they finally implement it.

That's just a poor estimation for the majority of the population. It does take months for some people. There are people that joined my guild in December '11 and they didn't get to 50 until after 2.0.

Anyway, it was actually said Dual Spec was likely coming fairly recently...not pre-launch.

Doesn't mean it will, but it is likely.

We know the reason for this thread: to give you and me something to agree on.

Actually, the devs NEVER said they WERE going to do it eventually. The quote specifically says "likely happen eventually". As has been noted, "likely happen" does not mean "WILL happen". It has also been noted that that same quote mentions that species changes would "likely happen". Species changes have happened, and yet class changes have not. Make no mistake, although some may not see AC changing as changing class, the devs do, according to the last word from the devs on AC's being different classes.

So, we have a quote that says AC changing and species changes would "likely happen" and species changes have been implemented, yet NOT ONE WORD about AC changing or changing classes since that quote. There has been NOTHING further, not even a hint of a whisper, from the devs about changing class or AC's, despite this 360+ page thread.

My personal opinion is that if the devs were still even considering allowing class changes, or AC changing, that we would have had a yellow post by now, even if just to say it is still on the "wall of crazy".

So your argument is basically this: "They said species change was likely to happen and it did. They also said AC change was likely to happen, but it hasn't happened yet. Therefore it is not going to happen."

Does not compute.

Let's look at the TOTAL picture.

The devs have stated several times that AC's are fundamentally DIFFERENT class designs, and that they (the devs) see them as DIFFERENT classes. Most MMO's do NOT allow class changes.

The devs stated that they were considering allowing AC changing and allowing species changes and that these would "likely happen eventually". There was NO time frame given for the implementation of either one, nor did this quote say the either one WOULD happen.

Since this quote regarding AC changes "likely" happening at some undetermined point in the future, there has been NOTHING further from the devs on allowing class changes. The devs have not said one word, have not uttered even a hint of a whisper, or even popped into this 360+ page thread to let us know that they are still considering it. They have also not said they are no longer considering it, either.

We have seen the implementation of species changes, which is PURELY cosmetic and does not affect fundamental game or class mechanics. We still have not seen or heard anything further about class changes.


How would you explain the fact that class changes are still not allowed, even though the cosmetic species changes which were mentioned in the same quote have come to pass? How would you explain the complete and total silence from the devs on this hot topic?

Why should he stop being lazy? Is this some kind of job or exercise that he must do to earn this money or advance his career (chances)? Or is this a computer game we play for fun and our personal enjoyment and entertainment?

I know that species change and trait changes was a big deal in Startrek Online - the reason the developers didn't allow the changes wasn't really because they hated the idea, it was just the game wasn't designed to do it.

But now traits can be respecced (and work totally different then they used to). I believe they still haven't the tech for race or gender changes, but that is still just a design limitation that can be overcome. The question is what priority it has compared to other features.

Lets just give everyone a "level up to 55 with max stats and gear" button while we're at it shall we?

oh for the love of.

of all the arguments, this has GOT to be the most inane.

people are not asking for free 55. people are asking for an option to have more flexibility in how to play their already existing character. character that did the quests ,unlocked the companions etc etc. the change would be within the story, within the base class. they wouldn't be given an extra character, they wouldn't be able to switch between stories, if someone wants a knight, they won't be able to shift their sage to it, they would STILL have to level a knight.

I almost wonder how you feel about ability to respec talents. since you can level as dps and then - bam switch to tank or healer later. with a click of a button. might as well be given a free character amirite? >_>