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Why are their no macro's again?

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VarKoE
11.15.2013 , 01:27 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Its an illness to think that a feature that has been in nearly every mmo since the 90's might be something this mmo should have? lol ok.
you started that, so it cuts both ways. Macro's are against TOS. it is not a matter of development. It is a choice they are making. Don't like that, fine. But unless they change their stance on TOS you will not see this.

Just FYI. I agree, don't see the need for it. More risk, less reward.

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Andryah
11.15.2013 , 01:29 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
It is in this game, you just have to own a special keyboard or mouse or get a program off the web.
It has been publicly clarified by Bioware that using said 3rd party devices for multi-key macro programming is a violation of the ToS and subject to banning if they catch you doing so. Given their telemetry capabilities, I personally would not push the envelope here.

It has been publicly clarified by Bioware that using said 3rd party devices for single key strokes, essentially remapping your user interface, is fine. I in fact to this using a G13, as I do for other MMOs as well.

It does not matter what other games do or don't do, in the context of playing this MMO. If you want to stomp feet and be offended that this game does not offer something that some other games do.. that's on you. You own it, so stop with the deflection tactics.
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Mallorik
11.15.2013 , 01:31 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
Yes, it is. It is the MMO equivalent of "If everyone else jumps in the lake, so should you". Just because it has always been that way doesn't make it right. It's called myopic.

People complain that all games are the same, and then people complain that all games aren't the same. I don't buy a pick-up and complain it isn't a semi...
We should just remove gear then, people don't play mmos to get new gear right? every other mmo has gear but we don't need that!

If other games have things that work in an mmo then yes I think this mmo should have it.

Anyway, I usually only argue with the people trying to wreck this game on subjects that bioware hasn't decided on, Macros will be in this game so its kind of pointless arguing with you.

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Grayseven
11.15.2013 , 01:43 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
We should just remove gear then, people don't play mmos to get new gear right? every other mmo has gear but we don't need that!

If other games have things that work in an mmo then yes I think this mmo should have it.

Anyway, I usually only argue with the people trying to wreck this game on subjects that bioware hasn't decided on, Macros will be in this game so its kind of pointless arguing with you.
How do you figure? I haven't seen a word about macro's in this game unless by macro enabling you mean being able to use a / command for an emote and put it on your UI...

Most people asking for macros are looking at the WoW system where the entire paladin tank rotation could be macro'd into 3 buttons...
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Mallorik
11.15.2013 , 01:49 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
How do you figure? I haven't seen a word about macro's in this game unless by macro enabling you mean being able to use a / command for an emote and put it on your UI...

Most people asking for macros are looking at the WoW system where the entire paladin tank rotation could be macro'd into 3 buttons...


/target (name) is a macro
mouse over healing is a macro
Gear swapping can be easily implemented with macros.

And the only reason they don't and wont anytime soon have the ability to tie multiple keys to one key is because this crappy engine freaks out when you do it.

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NoFishing
11.15.2013 , 03:06 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
/target (name) is a macro
mouse over healing is a macro
Gear swapping can be easily implemented with macros.

And the only reason they don't and wont anytime soon have the ability to tie multiple keys to one key is because this crappy engine freaks out when you do it.
Could be that. Or, I dunno, it could be that Bioware actually does not want macros automating the game under any circumstances, and thus have made any use of the kind of macro you describe, even using 3rd party software or hardware, an actionable violation of the ToS.

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Mallorik
11.15.2013 , 03:11 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by NoFishing View Post
Could be that. Or, I dunno, it could be that Bioware actually does not want macros automating the game under any circumstances, and thus have made any use of the kind of macro you describe, even using 3rd party software or hardware, an actionable violation of the ToS.
Try accidently hitting 2 buttons at once every once in awhile and see what happens to the game.

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NoFishing
11.15.2013 , 03:25 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Try accidently hitting 2 buttons at once every once in awhile and see what happens to the game.
Lol, wut?

Physically hitting multiple keys at the same time, whether on purpose or accidentally, is NOT a macro, not against the ToS, and not actionable. Unless you mean that Bioware can't take any action against you using macros because they can't prove that trying to activate the the same abilities in the same sequence with the same delay between them 500 times in the last hour wasn't just accidental, well, good luck with that argument.

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Hyfy
11.15.2013 , 03:26 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
We should just remove gear then, people don't play mmos to get new gear right? every other mmo has gear but we don't need that!

If other games have things that work in an mmo then yes I think this mmo should have it.

Anyway, I usually only argue with the people trying to wreck this game on subjects that bioware hasn't decided on, Macros will be in this game so its kind of pointless arguing with you.
Remove the gear? Good luck on that one. God knows you aren't going to get my Razer Anansi keyboard and my Logitech G700 mouse.
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Hyfy
11.15.2013 , 03:32 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Try accidently hitting 2 buttons at once every once in awhile and see what happens to the game.
If hitting two buttons at the same time is causing your game performance to decline noticeably then I would suggest upgrading your computer and internet connection from that abacus and tin cups with string you are apparently using.
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