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2V-R8 first robot - what to gear for healing?

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2V-R8 first robot - what to gear for healing?

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AlrikFassbauer
11.14.2013 , 07:42 AM | #11
As a side-note, I found this "main stat only" principle of SWTOR highly underwhelming. My very first MMOP was DDO (Dungeons & Dragons Online) in which *every* main stat actually matters.

Everyone going from SWTOR to DDO would fall into a huuuuuge pitfall because of SWTOR's rather simplistic system.
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KBerling
11.14.2013 , 02:30 PM | #12
There is one and only 1 item the ship droid needs to be geared with: a crew skills sensor.

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theStirge
11.14.2013 , 02:44 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by KBerling View Post
There is one and only 1 item the ship droid needs to be geared with: a crew skills sensor.
At later levels when you have a full crew complement, sure, but some classes go a long time without another healer companion(2 of them don't get theirs until Hoth), and not everyone can afford the credits or coins to pick up Treek.
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KBerling
11.14.2013 , 05:02 PM | #14
If you're using the ship droid in combat, at any time and with any class, you simply haven't learned how to play your character properly. He tells you this himself when you first meet him on ship. The fact that he can't equip any main hand weapon should be another pretty good clue that he is never meant to leave home.

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ekimmak
11.14.2013 , 06:13 PM | #15
But he has comments on Makeb! That's a pretty good indicator he needs to come out at least some times. And he's a melee healer, so you can gather all melee enemies into a nice neat pile for AoE decimation.

Whenever someone says "(any companion) should never be used", I can immediately think of at least one way to prove them wrong.
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JacksonMo
11.15.2013 , 05:20 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by KBerling View Post
If you're using the ship droid in combat, at any time and with any class, you simply haven't learned how to play your character properly. He tells you this himself when you first meet him on ship. The fact that he can't equip any main hand weapon should be another pretty good clue that he is never meant to leave home.
Oh the old "learn to play" argument. How helpful [/SARCASM]

Thing is, at lower levels MOST people don't know how to play their class yet. And everyone has their own play style, so your first couple times through, there's nothing WRONG with wanting a healer along.
If you keep him geared up, he doesn't NEED a weapon. He generates threat just by healing himself freeing you up to DPS from a distance and not worry about your companion dieing on you every other fight.
So if you are playing a ranged DPS, fairly new to the game (little or no legacy bonus to Presence), and don't get your healer till late in the game, the ship droid IS a worthy companion.

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KBerling
11.15.2013 , 08:24 AM | #17
So exactly what class benefits from using a weaponless ship droid on Taris or Balmorra (and even later???)instead of the true companion you'll already have by the time you acquire it?

Is it better to use the ship droid rather than Qyzen?
How about Kira?
Corso?
Aric?
Khem?
Vette?
Kaliyo?
-or- Mako?

btw, what dialogue does he have on Makeb? My guess would be something along the lines of: "What the hell are you doing using me. Get me out of here!" I've logged hundreds of hours of play time on Makeb and never once seen anyone using the ship droid.

Saying a newbie benefits from not learning how to play his character right away and instead it's okay to rely on an ALWAYS UNDERGEARED (no weapon) ship droid for some ineffective healing is a bit disingenuous.

Anybody using the ship droid in combat at any time is mis-playing his character.

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Kurzaa
11.15.2013 , 09:21 AM | #18
I am going to have to go with huh? I have never felt the need to use my ship droid as a healer...he is too busy re-painting my quarters.

Lvl 47 - Operative, maybe the sniper AC needs a healer, but Kailyo has always been a great tank for me. The only times I need to use my healing abilities on her or me is when I screw up something and "vanish" is on cooldown.

Lvl 44 - Guardian, early stages I relied on T7 for holding aggro and he did great. Tried using Kira, but always seemed slower. By the time I met Doc, I was normally pulling aggro without trying and found having his healing fine, though still inadequate if I screwed something up. I assume he heals better in crap gear than the ship droid heals in cutting edge gear. Plus he deals damage in between heals.

Lvl 28 - Assissin, Khem Val so far has been a great tank and with stealth + CC, I barely ever need to rely on my self-heal. I may have a real healing companion by this point, not sure, but I like being called little sith and the big guy grows on you.

Lvl 28 - Commando, ok, so once again I am able to heal myself. But with Jorgan on dps, we blow through most mobs rather efficiently, and I think I have a healing companion by now had I gone Vanguard.

Lvl 20 - Mercenary, Mako is a healer. Not a great one, but still likely better than the ship droid.

Lvl 16 - Sage, Dryzen is a good tank, just wish he wasn't reliant on those dumb *** tech blades. Tech and force bonuses should be tied to the armoring, not the item Bioware!

I also dabbled with a maurader and thought Vette was a healer. But at the end of the day, you really should have a good grasp on how to play the game as well as your character by the end of your first planet post-ship droid. If you don't, it isn't like you can really afford to gear the droid well enough for its healing to matter anyway.

Just my 2 credits.

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JacksonMo
11.15.2013 , 03:15 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by KBerling View Post
So exactly what class benefits from using a weaponless ship droid on Taris or Balmorra (and even later???)instead of the true companion you'll already have by the time you acquire it?

Is it better to use the ship droid rather than Qyzen?
How about Kira?
Corso?
Aric?
Khem?
Vette?
Kaliyo?
-or- Mako?

btw, what dialogue does he have on Makeb? My guess would be something along the lines of: "What the hell are you doing using me. Get me out of here!" I've logged hundreds of hours of play time on Makeb and never once seen anyone using the ship droid.

Saying a newbie benefits from not learning how to play his character right away and instead it's okay to rely on an ALWAYS UNDERGEARED (no weapon) ship droid for some ineffective healing is a bit disingenuous.

Anybody using the ship droid in combat at any time is mis-playing his character.
Actually, he is better than Corso Riggs for a Gunslinger for the simple fact that he's HARDER TO KILL and does a passable job tanking. (and by tanking, I mean getting and holding agro away from the DPS) He heals himself, and keeps the bad guys off the gunslinger long enough to do what gunslingers do best, KILL EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.

I rolled a gunslinger early so had very little legacy boost to presence. So without that, your tank tends to die quickly, so I began experimenting. And wouldn't ya know, the useless little droid wasn't so useless after all, if you gear him up a bit.
Send him in first, he immediately generates threat just by healing himself, but even though he has less health and armor than the tank companion does, he survives longer.

And the gunslinger kills stuff. Isn't that what DPS are supposed to do?
Face it. Annoying dialogue aside, NO companion is useless, just because YOU proclaim it.

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KBerling
11.15.2013 , 04:38 PM | #20
So the ship droid can now also be used as a tank?

You simply didn't know how to manage your dps and the actual tank you had at the time (Corso).

Here's the deal. If you are using the ship droid in combat, at any time and with any character, you are basically running around with a big sign on your back that says: "Ha! I have absolutely no idea how to play this game".