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Why are their no macro's again?

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harpuax
11.13.2013 , 12:15 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by ELRunninW View Post
This is not true. Macros will improve players overall performance. Others in order to achieve the same level will have to use macros as well. Macros will stop being optional. This is obvious, stop suggesting they are optional.
People can achieve the same level of performance without them. Many here have already suggested such in their argument against them. Many games with them have plenty of people at the top that don't use them. Macros will not allow you to achieve a level of play unattainable by those who don't use them, it will just require more skill to do so. Therefore if you want to play the game with more skill, don't use them.

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Andryah
11.13.2013 , 12:16 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Hyfy View Post
Either it's an odd coincidence that almost every person arguing that macros are ok if not a good thing, citing "bad design" as an excuse to use them, and all are using the same near identical forum avatar with the Jawas; or someone is using multiple accounts to try and justify his using of macros because of sheer laziness and/or lack of skill.
Everyone knows Jawas are troublemakers.

AND.. they travel in packs too.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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chuixupu
11.13.2013 , 12:16 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowermanx View Post
Look at the date of those quotes, before the big staff purges.
And it goes both ways, things they had planned and said yes to, could well never see the light of day.
I highly doubt we will ever see this feature.
I know the date of the quotes, I was around at the time they were made. Time and staff purges don't mean they will never decide to do it. In the case of macros I don't believe it's a huge time and money sink but more of a game philosophy, and those are especially subject to change. I don't care if they ever put in macros or not, but like I said, I've already seen several cases of emphatic NOs given to features that were later implemented.
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JimG
11.13.2013 , 12:24 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Nikkalos View Post
Macro's don't give you an advantage, their fair, they fix problems the game developers put in combat.
So combat macros don't give you a benefit? They don't make it so that you can do more things in combat than you'd be able to do with a keystrokes and a mouse? Obviously they would give you an advantage over non-macro users in PVP, Ops, etc. If they didn't, you wouldn't want them. They don't want macros in combat because then everyone would have to use macros or be at a disadvantage and they don't want a game where everyone is basically forced to use macros.

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shadowrouge
11.13.2013 , 12:26 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Nikkalos View Post
Well, I'm glad this thread is getting the attention it needs. But I have to be done with it for now... (curse work and sleep for interrupting my gamer life)

I'm not convinced the game should keep macro's out.

Some people like them, some don't. Some think they're for the skilled, some don't. But there's still no reason for them to be avoided. Simply stating that it's against your personal play style, should not hinder other players from having it.
As was said by yourself you per fur to play on your laptop, since there is hardware out there that can solve your issue. its more a personal problem than one for the game.
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ELRunninW
11.13.2013 , 12:27 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by harpuax View Post
Therefore if you want to play the game with more skill, don't use them.
Skill or no skill, macros WILL improve your reaction time/ overall performance, period.
I am not arguing about me using or not using them. I am arguing that they stop being optional. Suggesting one may chose not to use them fails for mentioned reason.

Think that this game was not meant to have them and you will feel much better.

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harpuax
11.13.2013 , 12:36 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by ELRunninW View Post
Skill or no skill, macros WILL improve your reaction time/ overall performance, period.
I am not arguing about me using or not using them. I am arguing that they stop being optional. Suggesting one may chose not to use them fails for mentioned reason.

Think that this game was not meant to have them and you will feel much better.
No game that has had them has EVER had them as mandatory, EVER. Plenty of people get tops on the leader boards, tops dps meters, and overall win without them. all the time in games with macros. You can believe whatever you want, but the fact is they are ALWAYS optional.

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Neoforcer
11.13.2013 , 12:46 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Nikkalos View Post
Sorry... I don't understand... Macro's don't give you an advantage, their fair, they fix problems the game developers put in combat. Oh, and the most important part of all... THEY ARE OPTIONAL!!!

Me having macro's has nothing to do with another player who doesn't use them. So why should I not have them?
Here why combat macro are bad when i played wow i made a macro that basically turned a hunter into a 2 button spam marco. That macro could nuke some one in pvp before they could ever get there full rotation off because at the time the macro looked at what was on CD and did not cast it if i had a cool down up. IE why Blizzard changed how there combat macro worked at one point. So my macro was faster at a rotation then a manual button masher.

Then add that with how naga mouse which could spam those 2 button faster then humanly possible . Guess what happen to the people i shot they died it was not skill other then my ability to right a macro better then a key binder. This is why there are no combat macro people like me that can push a macro to the edge.

There you go this is the reason we have no macro system

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MadHobbit
11.13.2013 , 12:47 PM | #89
back in city of heroes, my tank had a macro that every time i used taunt,would say a insult in local,and would have a pool of about 5 sayings. so i can see a cute use for it here.

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NoFishing
11.13.2013 , 12:49 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Nikkalos View Post
Macro's don't give you an advantage
If they don't give you an advantage, then why do you want them so badly? And you've contradicted yourself many times in this thread by describing the advantage that macros give you over other players that don't or can't use them.