So pubs can be lesbians but imps not?

LS-Sith eugenics?

I didn't get that dialog, it's clearly driven by suggestion something to her rather than something she brings up without you saying so in the first place.

I mean even watching it the Sith is the one that says they should have kids together, she then agrees from a logical point of view. What's interesting is that in that conversation my Sith character told her that she should consider having children some day and that when she did my guy would be happy to help train them and would consider them part of his family/clan just like she was. There was no suggestion from either side that they should have kids together.

If you flirt with Vette in any way, I think you get the other version of this conversation (where Jaesa will not have your children).

I was specifically referring to this version, though - I think it's a creepy how clinical/detached it is (although it's appropriate for a Sith, I guess). I was also just linking it because someone on the previous page seemed unaware the conversation existed.

Edit: And also what Tat said.

This has got to be the only time when you don't romance a female companion, and yet still the "women=baby factory" thing holds. I swear, that bizarre instance on having children being the only way to adult is reaching obsessive levels in Austin.

It doesn't surprise me, Light Side Jaesa might as well be a droid.. no that's not fair to droids.. for all the emotion she displays. When you have no emotions about anything, why wouldn't child birth be a clinical choice as well?

It comes across that way, as it seems to be based in a consequentialist/utilitarian value system of amoral "goodness" judgements.

I'm not sure what your point is?

It makes sense (sort of) from a story point of view, I just find it icky they decided to throw in a scene where an otherwise chaste/uninterested character agrees to have babies so the warrior can create uber-Force users.

*cough*institutionalised misogyny and the 'need' for women to be present in this game only for the satisfaction of men*cough*

I don't even think it's that. She has the ability to do something that from a logical point of view only a small subset of the population can. Not only does somebody have to be female, but they have to be of a species that can have children with the sith in question. It's really no different than her offering to use her abilities to go find other light side sith. In fact it ties together as the Force has been shown to carry strongly in the blood line. From a non-emotional side of view having kids between two powerful force users makes 100% logical sense.

The problem is we as viewers aren't emotionless and having children in our culture has a huge amount of emotional baggage to it.

She has a certain set of skills/abilities/powers that some of them had nothing to do with her choice in the matter.. she didn't ask to be able to sense for light side sith, or to be born female, but because she has those abilities she can do certain things to help the cause.

It's like asking Broonmark? Gah.. I'm horrible with names to go stealth on a snow planet and kill somebody. His skills involve stealth, ((from the cut scenes he loses the power when he joins you)) and the fat that he's a killer warrior and pretty savage. It's not being speciest to ask him to do that, that's just one of his many abilities.

Woah, I think you are crossing the line into contrived controversy territory. LS Jaesa is still a Jedi, she even refers to herself as such, so within the context it's reasonable. While certainly a strange scene, given the detached nature of the Jedi Order, it's a very Jedi way to go about reproducing. The only thing to be offended over is how utterly dull she is.