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View Poll Results: Vote for what you want most for future content...Pick up to 5
Class Story 2,303 69.22%
Operations 924 27.77%
PvP Content (Warzones, Arena's etc) 1,285 38.62%
Companions 877 26.36%
Space Content (beyond what is coming already) 616 18.52%
Planets 1,384 41.60%
Crew Skills and Crafting 582 17.49%
Character Customization Options (Hair, Faces, Body sizes, etc) 807 24.26%
Legacy 829 24.92%
Mini Games (Sabacc, Pod racing, pazaak, etc) 1,307 39.28%
Playable Races 975 29.31%
New Class 1,374 41.30%
Other 224 6.73%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 3327. You may not vote on this poll

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SomeJagoff
11.07.2013 , 10:24 AM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
That is because typically we do not allow polls on the forums. Due to that, forum accounts are not flagged to create them. However, Malckiah managed to find an issue we had with some forum permissions, one that I didn't know existed, and he was able to post this poll. Imagine my surprise when I saw it in GD

That issue has now been corrected and so poll creation should not be an option that anyone can see. Since this poll is already live though, I will let it ride!

Thanks everyone.

-eric
hmm, well that's weird...

In any case:

1. PVP Content (ideally new 8v8 warzones/open world pvp areas/bolster removal/pvp gear on par with pve gear/fixed resolve/etc.)
2. Class Story (continuation of actual Class stories, not planetary arcs)
3. Planets (please, actual star wars planets instead of made up ones, dantooine, kashyyyk, etc.)
4. Legacy (Legacy Bank for credits/comms/storage for crafting mats)
5. New Class (new ACs, healing marauders, sniper tanks, or new base classes, Imperial Trooper, etc.)
Lightsabers, Force Choke, Force Lightning, Jedi Mind Tricks, what else could you want from an MMO? There may be other MMOs out there, but do they have Lightsabers?....Do They?

Once you're in the hole, what's a few more feet?

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LordArtemis
11.07.2013 , 10:25 AM | #262
Quote: Originally Posted by StarMagus View Post
Completely disagree, the people who are going to be attracted to his poll and to his particular sub forum in general are not a fair cross sample of the player base or even the Subscriber Player Base.
General discussion is the ONLY place in the forum to get a truly unbiased representation of the majority player base IMO. This has been the example in almost every game that has a forum, and I expect the same holds true here.

Almost all of the positive changes that have come to the game have come from GD suggestions, perhaps in small part, as opposed to other sections of the forum. There is a reason that many suggestions here directly line up with changes that became part of the game.

Because this is where the most representative section of the playerbase spends it's time.


Now, note, this poll, like any poll, is just to get a slice of opinion and multiply that across the entire group you are curious about. There is no real way to get the opinion of every single player, unless you do an in game poll of some kind. Again, the same goes for any poll.

The reason that polls are pretty good indicators is because they have always been traditionally good indicators. For every one person that answers a question, 1000 people would agree with them...arbitrary numbers, but you get the idea.

This poll suggests the majority of players desire extensions on class stories, something more than Makeb. Is is really that hard to believe that that would be the case across the entire playerbase? Also planets...falling in line with Makeb popularity, and minigames....pazaak and swoop racing being one of the most popular suggestions seems to fall in line with forum suggestions.

I believe this poll is a pretty good representation of the playerbase in it's entirety, and it's desires. Most of the folks in this forum that have accurately predicted what was coming to the game, what was happening to the game and how players would react fall in line with what the poll has demonstrated.

I'd say that is pretty convincing evidence.

Finally, I would say this directly to Bioware....

If you believe there is any desire from your majority playerbase for class story extensions, I would suggest you reconsider your decision to go with Makeb style only story expansions. Many folks have put forth sensible suggestions on how you provide class story extensions without increasing player level cap, and I suggested a way to combine both class stories and companion storylines with one small arc of 4 or 5 missions per class, developed and released one class at a time.

There are ways to provide story progression without it breaking the bank. Just consider it.

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TUXs
11.07.2013 , 10:33 AM | #263
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Context of what you are seeking in a poll is very important. In this case, the poll seeks to acquire a stable statistical view of what subscribers crave in the way of future content.
Stable and statistical? Right lol...maybe you can explain what "Planets" means then...it's the 2nd most wanted item...yet who the hell knows what "Planets" is? If Bioware goes and adds them to the Galaxy Map, is that all players wanted? Or does it mean new daily areas? New quests? New resources? Just...terrain? Ops? FPs?

The poll is fine for getting an idea of what players may like, but it's not even close to being the unbiased and scientifically accurate poll you pretend it is. All data is good...but this isn't better or more accurate than other polls or feedback.
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LordArtemis
11.07.2013 , 10:38 AM | #264
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Stable and statistical? Right lol...maybe you can explain what "Planets" means then...it's the 2nd most wanted item...yet who the hell knows what "Planets" is? If Bioware goes and adds them to the Galaxy Map, is that all players wanted? Or does it mean new daily areas? New quests? New resources? Just...terrain? Ops? FPs?

The poll is fine for getting an idea of what players may like, but it's not even close to being the unbiased and scientifically accurate poll you pretend it is. All data is good...but this isn't better or more accurate than other polls or feedback.
It's pretty obvious to me what planets means....another planet with some missions on it. Could be Makeb with a level cap increase, or just a new planet with a story like Ori. I don't think it's too hard for folks to figure out what it means.

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StarMagus
11.07.2013 , 10:42 AM | #265
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The reason that polls are pretty good indicators is because they have always been traditionally good indicators.
This is not true. Well run polls are good indicators because they follow best practices that lead to results that match reality, IE election polls match the results of elections, however polls that are poorly run don't match with results at all. There is nothing magical about a poll, it's a tool that requires correct usage just like any other tool.

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StarMagus
11.07.2013 , 10:45 AM | #266
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Context of what you are seeking in a poll is very important. In this case, the poll seeks to acquire a stable statistical view of what subscribers crave in the way of future content.
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A better way to do that would be for Bioware to send out a poll to a group of subscribers that closely matches the actual break down of players.

There is nothing in evidence that shows that the people who come to this forum are a close break down of the opinions of the general game playing populace. In fact we know they don't represent the opinions of people who played the game as more people have quit the game then are still subscribers.

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Andryah
11.07.2013 , 10:47 AM | #267
Quote: Originally Posted by StarMagus View Post
This is not true. Well run polls are good indicators because they follow best practices that lead to results that match reality, IE election polls match the results of elections, however polls that are poorly run don't match with results at all. There is nothing magical about a poll, it's a tool that requires correct usage just like any other tool.
OK... you have placed your stake in the ground. Now.. prove this poll is not a statistically accurate representation of what subscribers desire. Right now, all we have is your stake in the ground. Please provide proof if you wish us to endorse your stake in the ground.

Look.. I get what you are saying regarding polling best practices. I agree with you from a clinical sense. However, a poll does not have to apply 100% best practices for it to be an accurate representation (+/- polling uncertainty) of what the polled audience desires. What we don't have here is what the uncertainty factor is... and nor do we really need it for a cross section multi-answer poll. This is not a poll of PvP YES/NO or Raids YES/NO or <insert your pet agenda here>.
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ikinai
11.07.2013 , 10:48 AM | #268
Quote: Originally Posted by StarMagus View Post
A better way to do that would be for Bioware to send out a poll to a group of subscribers that closely matches the actual break down of players.

There is nothing in evidence that shows that the people who come to this forum are a close break down of the opinions of the general game playing populace. In fact we know they don't represent the opinions of people who played the game as more people have quit the game then are still subscribers.
Those who quit aren't subscribers. So then this poll isn't for them, now is it?
I'll tell you what, then. Why don't you call me some time when you have no class?
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Costello
11.07.2013 , 10:50 AM | #269
Given in the last few posts from the development team there has been talk of listening to the player base and thanking the fans and telling us they are taking note this poll should have been created by the community team to give weight to the design choices of the development team. After all from the galactic star fighters blog

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After a great deal of deliberation, it was clear we had to prioritize which features would be best received by you, the fans
From this you would imagine PvP would be top of the votes as that's the direction that the SSSP took. Likewise if the development team are looking at what the player base want this poll gives them a good idea. Is class story something that should be ignored to focus on more generic story, it seems this would not be acting on player/fan feed back. So if we don't see any more class story it would be wrong for any more blogs to say we are acting on what the players want.

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StarMagus
11.07.2013 , 10:51 AM | #270
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OK... you have placed your stake in the ground. Now.. prove this poll is not a statistically accurate representation of what subscribers desire. Right now, all we have is your stake in the ground. Please provide proof if you wish us to endorse your stake in the ground.
Wait, the claim is this poll is a good representation, that is what has to proved. You just asked me to prove a negative.

Somebody doesn't get to go "Aliens are out there and are getting ready to invade." and then answer that they have no proof with "Pove Aliens aren't out there!!!" That's insane.