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The (Un)Official PVP venting thread.

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The (Un)Official PVP venting thread.

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Ridickilis
11.05.2013 , 02:48 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Technohic View Post
If you are not doing any of the crafting nor PvE to make credits, I don't know what to tell you other than it may not be realistic to expect creds to just be handed to you while you just do what you want to do
No it's fine nor am I expecting to get any credits handed to me.

And pve is exactly what I do when I run out of credits. It just gets old having to spend a few nights without entering the pvp queue doing something I'm not totally enjoying to do something else I do enjoy.

Anyway /whine off.

EDIT: or even better, add the MK-9 plus augments available from pvp vendors for comms.

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Technohic
11.05.2013 , 02:58 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Ridickilis View Post
No it's fine nor am I expecting to get any credits handed to me.

And pve is exactly what I do when I run out of credits. It just gets old having to spend a few nights without entering the pvp queue doing something I'm not totally enjoying to do something else I do enjoy.

Anyway /whine off.

EDIT: or even better, add the MK-9 plus augments available from pvp vendors for comms.
I hear you. I've gotten down to doing the solo-Illum dailies in about 20 minutes so I run those with my 4 imp toons when I need creds fast. Pub side is not nearly as quick. Both are kind of boring.

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L-RANDLE
11.05.2013 , 03:16 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Technohic View Post
I hear you. I've gotten down to doing the solo-Illum dailies in about 20 minutes so I run those with my 4 imp toons when I need creds fast. Pub side is not nearly as quick. Both are kind of boring.
I do pub side in 20 mins as long as the cave drop cooperates..

I guess we should let people know why asking people to augment their **** is absurd, while we are at it. In Tech's case, he has 4 toons each taking 20 mins to complete ilum. 1hr 20 mins, 320k credits. All before you hit 55.

Also @Ric yeah I get it, but if you are leveling through PvP more than likely this is a reroll, and have access to full support from your main. I also have a hard time seeing people using PvP only with the current pops. If you are trying to level as quickly as possible, you should be doing PvE and PvP at the same time, but agains, credits should be your mains job, not the alt... This is not a viable excuse either in my book.
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sithBracer
11.05.2013 , 03:27 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Ridickilis View Post
That's not entirely true if you mostly level up through pvp and CBA to play the tedious crafting game. All my toons are broke (50-100k each) yet I've never once purchased any of those peripheral items. I'm broke from trying to keep my gear within 5 levels of my toons as I leveled up. PVP rewards are quite stingy with the credits in comparison to pve as I'm sure most of you know.

So yeah sure, I'll take the heat for not wanting to take a couple nights off from pvp to go grind credits but I'm sorry it feels very backwards to me that I need to go pve enough to bank a couple mil in credits just to do end game pvp.
My shadow is level 53 and has close to 1M credits. I did only a few fps throughout leveling up and did only 1 hm fp so far. I didn't go out of my way to do anything special or even sell anything special. My synthweaving is over 420 or 430 (I forgot ... enough to make mk-9 kits) and I even spent a few 100k on vanity items. I did spend a lot of my wz comms on planetary comms and credit trunks when I was doing 10-29 lowbies.

I was over 1M but I spend some money buying PvE 148 blue tank gear and some different gear to test out the bolster. If you have only 50k and no augments then ... something is off. If you spent all your money on augments, then you are doing the right thing. I am only referring to people who are broke and completely (or almost completely) unaugmented.
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HolyFrogx
11.05.2013 , 05:02 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Brunner_Venda View Post
What bothers me? My teammates misusing their pushes.

Situation 1: I pulled the ball carrier into the fire pit. Tie game with a few seconds to go. I fire pit the dude, stun him, and some idiot Sorc pushes him OUT of the fire.

Situation 2: Two node guards are near dead. I stun them and hit PFT for the snare/kill. A derp merc on my team pushes both of them out, saving their lives, and they interrupt the cap for the win.
BUMP!
I used to hate this ****, especially guardian pushes on focussed targets. Often, there are 3 4 or 5 of us focussing a single target, yet the guard feels it necessary to push the maggot, while we're left flailing at thin air.

Guys, save it for a better time, really.

N.B. I ran up a juggernaut to 39 and it turns out I often do the same thing! Sorry.
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Technohic
11.05.2013 , 08:29 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by HolyFrogx View Post
BUMP!
I used to hate this ****, especially guardian pushes on focussed targets. Often, there are 3 4 or 5 of us focussing a single target, yet the guard feels it necessary to push the maggot, while we're left flailing at thin air.

Guys, save it for a better time, really.

N.B. I ran up a juggernaut to 39 and it turns out I often do the same thing! Sorry.
I was in a match where about 5 different times, I was just about to hit assassinate and the target would be dead, then PUNT! I'm like "what the eff? Its the only dude left!" Think the guy was using the merc push every time it was up on cooldown.

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Tarackian
11.05.2013 , 11:21 PM | #57
Vent? Okay.

Shadows/Assassins are a broken class.

The tanks are way too good in pvp.

Madness/Balance is pretty much useless. You have no burst and you are squishier than anyone else.

Infiltration/Deception is feast or famine. You either annihilate someone in a few seconds or you get annihilated. This is a ****** spec and I hate that I have to use it. You have to use it because the other dps spec is terrible.

When it doesn't work, it sucks to play. When it does work, it sucks to be on the receiving end. A shadow can shred you in seconds, if they're lucky. There's not much skill involved here. You can't really be "better" at pressing shadow strike. There's a low skill cap and high RNG cap.

It's either too good or too bad depending on which way the wind blows. This is unsustainable. Their burst needs to be nerfed and their sustained damage + survivability needs to go up

Right now Shadows/Assassins are just as bad as Rogues in WoW back in the day where they killed you in stunlock.

Even if you have 34k HP or more they can shred you if they get a couple crits.

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JP_Legatus
11.06.2013 , 01:13 AM | #58
You know what really grinds my gears? When I'm trying to do hit people with mean saber strikes and thrashes to pad my dps numbers and some *********** noob SAPS THE DEFENDER I WANT TO ATTACK AND TRIES TO CAP THE NODE. The **** is wrong with you people seriously? MY DPS STATS WILL BE LOWER IF I CANT THRASH THE GUY. ****.

Nah just kidding, if you hit the sapped guard while im capping next to him I will find you irl. And I will kill you. Slowly.
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IInox
11.06.2013 , 04:20 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarackian View Post
Vent? Okay.

Shadows/Assassins are a broken class.

The tanks are way too good in pvp.

Madness/Balance is pretty much useless. You have no burst and you are squishier than anyone else.

Infiltration/Deception is feast or famine. You either annihilate someone in a few seconds or you get annihilated. This is a ****** spec and I hate that I have to use it. You have to use it because the other dps spec is terrible.

When it doesn't work, it sucks to play. When it does work, it sucks to be on the receiving end. A shadow can shred you in seconds, if they're lucky. There's not much skill involved here. You can't really be "better" at pressing shadow strike. There's a low skill cap and high RNG cap.

It's either too good or too bad depending on which way the wind blows. This is unsustainable. Their burst needs to be nerfed and their sustained damage + survivability needs to go up

Right now Shadows/Assassins are just as bad as Rogues in WoW back in the day where they killed you in stunlock.

Even if you have 34k HP or more they can shred you if they get a couple crits.
yeah we are rlly good on pvp but an antuocritted smash is for pro? an autocrit high impact bolt is for pro? other class are for pro? :S there is any class difficult to play.

Btw yes we are gonna depending but you know what, that's is the cause we aren't so good on PvE

Btw is not so ignorant class to play good. it needs practice trust me, but yes still rly good and idk why bw will buff Maul ****...

they will not put 2.5 on pts?!

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Technohic
11.06.2013 , 07:24 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarackian View Post
Vent? Okay.

Shadows/Assassins are a broken class.

The tanks are way too good in pvp.

Madness/Balance is pretty much useless. You have no burst and you are squishier than anyone else.

Infiltration/Deception is feast or famine. You either annihilate someone in a few seconds or you get annihilated. This is a ****** spec and I hate that I have to use it. You have to use it because the other dps spec is terrible.

When it doesn't work, it sucks to play. When it does work, it sucks to be on the receiving end. A shadow can shred you in seconds, if they're lucky. There's not much skill involved here. You can't really be "better" at pressing shadow strike. There's a low skill cap and high RNG cap.

It's either too good or too bad depending on which way the wind blows. This is unsustainable. Their burst needs to be nerfed and their sustained damage + survivability needs to go up

Right now Shadows/Assassins are just as bad as Rogues in WoW back in the day where they killed you in stunlock.

Even if you have 34k HP or more they can shred you if they get a couple crits.
I don't have much trouble with deception for burst or survivability. Sure; sometimes it is not as bursty if you are unlucky, but it still gets the job done, and for coming out of stealth, it has great survivability if you ask me. Deflection, Blackout, Shroud, overcharge saber; even phasewalk if you have it set up can get you out of a jam.

As far as damage goes, you want to make sure you pop recklessness before leaving stealth (as well as blackout) for the reduced cooldown. Don't be shocking without 2 stacks of induction and dont be discharging without 3 stacks of static charge, don't maul unless you have duplicity and don't low slash when you already have duplicity.

The only time I have issues is when I run into a team that knows what they are doing. I just laugh when I see people complain about assassin as all you have to do is knock them back away from their target, snare and root them and you can worry about other targets. Otherwise, your teammate that just got opened up on is going to go down. Duh. What do you expect if you started the fight with an assassin with half your health gone?