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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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TUXs
11.04.2013 , 09:52 AM | #3591
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
The joke is on you pal.. I am just calling it like it is.. No name calling involved..

You have to understand here.. The people don't want AC swapping don't need a reason.. We aren't asking for a game change.. You on the other hand are... You all need something much better than laziness to give a viable reason for Bioware to make major changes to the game..

Bioware went through extra effort to make sure that people understood their choice of AC was a permanent one.. You all want to just ignore that.. Bioware stated they didn't want a single class to both heal and tank.. You want them to go back on that.. You better have a good reason.. And stop worrying about my arguments.. My arguments are just fine and backed by Bioware.. Yours?? Well... We know about the lazy one..

See.. That is where you are wrong.. We are the only side with arguments.. The people that want AC swapping have no arguments.. Well... except laziness..
Ah! I see...I also see you haven't even bothered to read the very first post of this thread. Come back after you read the part where Damion Schubert of Bioware said they're sure it'll eventually happen. I support his idea to make it happen - it would benefit the game.

What you call "laziness" is the stupid **** that costs Bioware customers. I don't want to grind another toon to 55 playing the EXACT SAME story I just did...you want to penalize people for a heads-or-tails pick they made at level freaking 10. You're argument against it is simply name calling or punitive. My argument in favor of allowing the swap is that if that's what it takes to keep a player in the game, big freaking deal...let em swap. We all know it's the EXACT SAME story, hell, AC's even have a common tree they share as well as all base class skills. Allowing this change impacts the community in a GOOD way...not a negative one.

Also...if you don't like it, don't use it...stick to your guns...roll your alts...nobody cares what YOU playo, stop caring what others like to play...it's none of your business.
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branmakmuffin
11.04.2013 , 09:54 AM | #3592
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Also...if you don't like it, don't use it...stick to your guns...roll your alts...nobody cares what YOU playo, stop caring what others like to play...it's none of your business.
I'm not sure what's more entertaining, being on the same side of an issue as you or being on the opposite side.

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11.04.2013 , 09:54 AM | #3593
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
I don't think his point was how they spend their CC.. It was the point that they would be swapping all the time.. It is also a valid point..
Nosy. That's all this is...mind your own business...if I wanna swap 10 times a day, who are you to care? Geezus dude...seriously, it doesn't impact you at all...it's no different than me swapping toons.
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11.04.2013 , 09:55 AM | #3594
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
I'm not sure what's more entertaining, being on the same side of an issue as you or being on the opposite side.

I don't get it...you're so rational here...what happens to you on every other topic?
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branmakmuffin
11.04.2013 , 09:57 AM | #3595
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I don't get it...you're so rational here...what happens to you on every other topic?
There was another topic where we agreed. You must have been sober at the time.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how going between DPS and tank or heal is a piece of cake but going between heal and tank is mind-numbingly game-altering.

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TUXs
11.04.2013 , 10:23 AM | #3596
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
There was another topic where we agreed. You must have been sober at the time.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how going between DPS and tank or heal is a piece of cake but going between heal and tank is mind-numbingly game-altering.
That just proves that it's noting personal Bran...you should agree with me more.

There is no difference...that's the dirty little secret that these people want to ignore. An "AC" swap would be no different than a respec in terms of a learning curve. All base skills are still the same...hell, when I swap between Assault and Gunnery (both DPS specs) on my Commando, I have MORE skills to swap around on my toolbar than I do when I switch to my Vanguard.
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Jimvinny
11.04.2013 , 10:28 AM | #3597
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
There was another topic where we agreed. You must have been sober at the time.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how going between DPS and tank or heal is a piece of cake but going between heal and tank is mind-numbingly game-altering.
What is mind-numbing is that you want Bioware, a company that makes more money the more time you spend in-game, to take away a reason for you to be spending time leveling, in-game. How does that make any sense?

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TUXs
11.04.2013 , 10:37 AM | #3598
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimvinny View Post
What is mind-numbing is that you want Bioware, a company that makes more money the more time you spend in-game, to take away a reason for you to be spending time leveling, in-game. How does that make any sense?
Because the reality is, not everyone is going to roll an alt. Some will just quit and find a new game before grinding ANOTHER toon. I know plenty of people who have quit instead of rolling again. It's an MMO - the players, the classes and class balance is fluid - allowing players to adapt to that fluidity is needed.
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DOHboy
11.04.2013 , 11:55 AM | #3599
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Nosy. That's all this is...mind your own business...if I wanna swap 10 times a day, who are you to care? Geezus dude...seriously, it doesn't impact you at all...it's no different than me swapping toons.
The problem is, it DOES impact me. I don't want to group with someone who 30 seconds ago was a commando healer and suddenly thinks they can play a vanguard tank in a HM operation. OR someone who was playing a guardian tank and suddenly splits to sentinel DPS (sentinels think they are tanks enough already). OR a sage DPS jumping into OPS as a shadow Tank having never played it before. And it starts costing me $$ in repair costs and time.

Over time that player may understand how to play and have good gear, but more often than not, they will have little idea on how to play that class.

I play a vanguard tank, there is no way I could walk in and play a commando healer and expect to play as well as someone who has been playing that class since day one.

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11.04.2013 , 12:13 PM | #3600
Quote: Originally Posted by DOHboy View Post
The problem is, it DOES impact me. I don't want to group with someone who 30 seconds ago was a commando healer and suddenly thinks they can play a vanguard tank in a HM operation. OR someone who was playing a guardian tank and suddenly splits to sentinel DPS (sentinels think they are tanks enough already). OR a sage DPS jumping into OPS as a shadow Tank having never played it before. And it starts costing me $$ in repair costs and time.

Over time that player may understand how to play and have good gear, but more often than not, they will have little idea on how to play that class.

I play a vanguard tank, there is no way I could walk in and play a commando healer and expect to play as well as someone who has been playing that class since day one.
Then form your own group - stop depending on GF to find you your socialization and become a leader since you seem to want control over what "I" am able to do. It's no different than me switching toons or respec'ing.
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