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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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ThorgrimLutgen
11.03.2013 , 12:56 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptRogue View Post

OMG! lolz
What is the TL;DR version of this because I just am not going to TRY to decipher anymore of your idiotic, insensible, ramblings- that you try to call the English language. (Someone should report you for slaughtering basic English! lolz)
Oh wait, the TL;DR version is still: "I did nothing wrong! Everyone is against me! You all are stupid players who don't know anything, but are know it all's!"
Am I right? lolz
I do appreciate the irony in your post. In italics and underlined for the illiterate.

The OPs posts are hard to follow for native English speakers, he/she is clearly annoyed and speaking/typing quickly and with little care.

However, that does not detract from the fact that the people who kicked him/her from the end of a flashpoint, are wrong in the extreme. At that point, the FP was over, there was no need to do what they did, other than to bully the OP.

Nowhere in the ToS do I find that kind of behaviour acceptable.

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Helig
11.03.2013 , 01:03 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
Lol. One more genius. You dont know me but you think that you are too clever and all understand etc. I always say 'hello" when i enter team, i never initiate kicked, i never take loot that i dont need, i always wait people if they have dc or ask for it. I suggest that you should think before write .And you should know something about the person before you make unfounded conclusions! Gl.
Your tone in this thread suggests that they are not unfounded. What you say is, at times, less important than *how* you say it.

You can behave like a "good person" all you want, but frustration always brings out our nastier sides, which we may not always be able to control. In fact, it's often the people who behave "nice" that feel entitled to preferential treatment, or to justify their tantrums.
"I'm not *giving* him cake, I'm *assaulting* him with cake!" - Pinkamena Diane Pie

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HelinCarnate
11.03.2013 , 02:37 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
When someone initiates a kick , a window appears where there will be a situation for which you can really kick . For example , the first section : roll an item that he did not need . Or section mismatch of their role : tank can not hold aggro and because of that the whole team several times died. Etc. When it climbs out the window , no one can write in the chat. Players choose situation. If they are honest , and all chose the first one, then the system is working as it should. But, as was the case in my situation, everyone chooses something and all situations are different . And for those players closes access to kick on this game, because they were trying to cheat and kick another player for some unfair reason. Yes, I agree that this system can be bypassed , and I think is not very difficult . But in this case should be another system of regulation. Player unjustly expelled. He writes a report and describes the situation. After all this is confirmed , the way the players who lied and, because of that the player has lost time and wasted nerves, will be punished. For example, they will not be able to use the LFG or even go on Flashpoints and Operations throughout the day / week, etc. I think it would be fair. And it will not hurt to someone kicked out.
If the other 3 people want you out for all different reasons you should be out. It should not matter that one wants you out because you suck at healing, another is annoyed by you rolling need on items not for your class and the other is upset that you wont shut up and keep telling everyone how to play their class. Your suggestion would also be easily bypassed. "OK so we make sure this idiot gets kicked, lets all pick option B"

So not only are you wanting to not get kicked, you are wanting to punish those that don't want you in their group. Wow....just....wow. BW is not going to spend the manpower being the drama police for disputes between players. As several people have told you already you have the solution to your problems already. Stop being a jerk and you will get kicked less frequently. Please PM me your server name and character name so I can put you on ignore on all my characters so I never have to worry about being in a group with you.
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LordArtemis
11.03.2013 , 07:40 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
When someone initiates a kick , a window appears where there will be a situation for which you can really kick......If they are honest , and all chose the first one, then the system is working as it should.
Ok, That's a bit clearer. So it requires folks to choose from a set of reasons to kick someone.

So...would they include an option if the person was rude in the list? Or used excessive language? Or perhaps if they were not geared correctly?

How many options would there be, and who would decide what the options would be?

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CaptRogue
11.03.2013 , 07:48 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by ThorgrimLutgen View Post
I do appreciate the irony in your post. In italics and underlined for the illiterate.

The OPs posts are hard to follow for native English speakers, he/she is clearly annoyed and speaking/typing quickly and with little care.

However, that does not detract from the fact that the people who kicked him/her from the end of a flashpoint, are wrong in the extreme. At that point, the FP was over, there was no need to do what they did, other than to bully the OP.

Nowhere in the ToS do I find that kind of behaviour acceptable.
Nice try, Thorgrim, but you're a little off track here. Using abbreviations like TL;DR, OMG, and LOLZ, does not make one illiterate at all. In fact sometimes if you don't add "LOL" to a sentence it reads as you're coming off extremely harsh, mean, etc...when you may not be at all.
But judging from your complete post, you wouldn't really get that.

Yes, again, nothing wrong with English not being his first language. It's the fact he has refused from the beginning to admit any wrong doing of himself, be it his grammar, how he plays, what he has said to other players that are wrong, etc... That in the end is what has basically "shot himself in the foot" so to speak.

To be honest for someone to get kicked at the last moment, like most have posted, you have done something wrong several times, been warned then finally kicked. I am not one who's going to kick at the end of a FP just to be mean. I will kick but I will kick when the infraction has happened.

Just because they have not made a specific line in the ToS about it, does not mean they broke any rules. SWTOR may not want people being kicked at the end of a FP but if they try to implement something here, it will mess up other things. So basically just deal with the idiots that do take advantage of the system, if that's what they did.
Like I said in one of my posts to him, 2 FP's out of the whole game. In reality nothing to worry about.

Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
I have mentioned only one person stupid. Yes , I believe that kick a man for such things is silly. I find such behavior unacceptable. But for a person it is the norm. For me, this is nonsense. But you are very rude , especially for girls . In the last post, slipped to insults and public ridicule . I reported you yesterday. I'm very strange to see such intolerant people. I understand that there will be differing opinions when I decided to write . But I never thought that I was pounce like a pack of wild dogs , the person you like . I made ​​a mistake when I went on about this trolling and started to defend and respond . But it is a normal human reaction . I do not like being accused of lying. I'm in the game since it launch. And I wrote a couple of times over the 2 years about bugs and general issues. That's all. At the forum I do not climb . But after what happened , I was very upset . And my boyfriend told me that I should write about it, it is necessary to achieve justice . When he reassured me, I agreed to do it. Yes, at first I did not fully describe the situation. I just did not think that some people need the tiniest details. I do not think that when I 'll add a story , I will be accused of lying. But I'm glad that there were a few people who have understood and supported . And you are a fighter with a regular forum. But before you make fun of someone's shortcomings, including poor knowledge of the language, before a crowd of incite pounce on people , think about the next time that he may be choen hurt. I learned a lesson and will no longer respond to your attacks and aggression. Good luck to you . Believe or not in my history that's your business . I do not really care.
Well first of all, I do believe calling someone stupid is against forum rules. It's considered bullying, harassment, etc... So you're wrong there. Plus in that post you were quite hypocritical.

Actually no I am not rude. I've kept most the harsh comments to myself. I've worded things properly for the most part, debated you like one half way should, called you out. If that makes me rude, then so be it, because you have been quite wrong with what you've posted to most the people commenting here. Go ahead report me, it will do no good because I've done nothing worth reporting.
In all actuality BW might just remove this whole post come Monday, which would be the best thing.

I'm not going to rebuttal your whole statement above. You don't listen, haven't from the beginning, and probably never will. You still think that you being kicked is different than anyone else who's been kicked unjustly, just going with your OP.
People get kicked, for good reasons, bad reasons, dumb reasons, it's a game. Move on with it. If it upsets you as much as this instance has, then maybe you should just find another game to play. Because there is worse things that happen than just being kicked from a FP. lolz
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KarmaForce
11.03.2013 , 08:13 AM | #126
OP, it seems like you're the problem.

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Tatile
11.03.2013 , 08:47 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by KarmaForce View Post
OP, it seems like you're the problem.
Don't make value judgements about the OP based on the evidence he's presented (he skips all conversations all the time, except for that one instance with Revan, yet calls other people "dirty skippers"), he'll make value judgements about you without any evidence at all.

Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
When it climbs out the window , no one can write in the chat.
Uh... if your game is climbing out the window, dude I think you should run. That's not safe.

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AlexDougherty
11.03.2013 , 08:51 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
Uh... if your game is climbing out the window, dude I think you should run. That's not safe.
Or at least cut back on the Coffee/sugar/etc.
Peace can be found, above all passions. Through passion, I may gain strength.
Through strength, I may gain power. Through power, I may gain victory.
But for every enemy fallen, a new foe rises.
For every chain broken, new chains bind me. Only the Force can set me free.

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lexasaniaalex
11.03.2013 , 08:57 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
Don't make value judgements about the OP based on the evidence he's presented (he skips all conversations all the time, except for that one instance with Revan, yet calls other people "dirty skippers"), he'll make value judgements about you without any evidence at all.



Uh... if your game is climbing out the window, dude I think you should run. That's not safe.
I skip only when i understand that people want do it fast! So one more unfounded accusations. But yee, even they want that it will be fast i dont see the problem with watch one dialog. I wait them. So they also can do it. But not going to grovel in front of you.
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Tatile
11.03.2013 , 09:04 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
I skip only when i understand that people want do it fast! So one more unfounded accusations. But yee, even they want that it will be fast i dont see the problem with watch one dialog. I wait them. So they also can do it. But not going to grovel in front of you.
See? Baseless value judgements. I don't ask people to grovel in front of me, unless they have forgotten to bring the usual offering of chocolate.

Did you bring the usual offering, OP?