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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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DarthTHC
11.02.2013 , 08:13 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
You are wrong. But i dont want discuss it anymore with you.
Thanks for the brilliant retort supported through reason, logic, and facts though.

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DarthTHC
11.02.2013 , 08:16 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by disxion View Post
If the OP's story is true; i.e. that he skipped all the dialogue but didn't skip the last one and was kicked for it, then I feel sorry for him.
I sort of doubt it. You're not going to find three people that will escape out of the last conversation in a flash point just to vote-kick someone. They would have to be really annoyed to do that, and not spacebaring the last conversation is not nearly enough to anger three people enough. There's more to the story. He was not a perfect angel before the last conversation.

Couple that with it being the second straight time he got vote kicked and, yeah, what's the rest of the story?

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jedimasterjac
11.02.2013 , 08:18 AM | #83
I understand you may be upset that you are kicked, but your argument lacks quite a few things.

1.) You don't say if you had agreed on watching cutscenes or not. It always seems, for me, that whenever we ask to skip cutscenes, two people say yes, and one person says nothing. Voicing your opinion is of utmost importance.
2.) You don't say if you had had any previous issues, if your group had told you not to skip cutscenes, or if you aggroed groups here and there and this was just the "last straw".
3.) I'm not sure how you didn't get credit if you were kicked after the final convo. The 'mission completed' screen comes up immediately after the Revan conversation, and they can't kick you in the middle of the conversation. This means that they either aborted the conversation, or you're lying.

I disagree with the 'problems' with the Kick System. It's worked perfectly fine for me: a tool to kick troublesome group-members, as soon as they reach the point they're detrimental to the group. I'm not paying thousands in repair drills. Now, if you are capable of presenting a better Kick System, then, sure, you can ask them to change it. But if you have no better ideas, seems it's time for you to stop telling someone else to fix it.
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jedimasterjac
11.02.2013 , 08:19 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I sort of doubt it. You're not going to find three people that will escape out of the last conversation in a flash point just to vote-kick someone. They would have to be really annoyed to do that, and not spacebaring the last conversation is not nearly enough to anger three people enough. There's more to the story. He was not a perfect angel before the last conversation.

Couple that with it being the second straight time he got vote kicked and, yeah, what's the rest of the story?
Now, I am just speculating here, but it seems likely the part he's leaving out is that he was an awful DPS. Aggroed groups everywhere, etc. But again, that's speculation.
Quote: Originally Posted by Grand Master Yoda
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DarthTHC
11.02.2013 , 08:23 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
Now, I am just speculating here, but it seems likely the part he's leaving out is that he was an awful DPS. Aggroed groups everywhere, etc. But again, that's speculation.
Yeah, I think he's a bad player. But he's the worst sort of bad player. Even after all the advice we've given him, he's rejecting it and intends to carry on as if he's somehow not the problem.

That's a bad player that won't improve. The quickest trigger for me to vote-kick. And it will keep happening to him.

Hopefully he'll at least stop posting about it.

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jedimasterjac
11.02.2013 , 08:24 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Yeah, I think he's a bad player. But he's the worst sort of bad player. Even after all the advice we've given him, he's rejecting it and intends to carry on as if he's somehow not the problem.

That's a bad player that won't improve. The quickest trigger for me to vote-kick. And it will keep happening to him.

Hopefully he'll at least stop posting about it.
I don't see that happening, unfortunately. But we'll see.
Quote: Originally Posted by Grand Master Yoda
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disxion
11.02.2013 , 09:00 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
Now, I am just speculating here, but it seems likely the part he's leaving out is that he was an awful DPS. Aggroed groups everywhere, etc. But again, that's speculation.
He's said that he was a healer. And yeah, of course the facts are questionable. But on the facts that he's given us, I don't think the vote kick is justified at all. If in fact he is lying and he was a terrible DPS or a terrible healer or griefing, then a vote kick would have been justified. Speculating as to the many different possible factual scenarios that could have actually taken place and making assumptions about the OP (many posts here also make assumptions because of his broken English) is not very useful.

It's obvious the OP believes he was kicked because he wasn't skipping conversations. We weren't there. We can say; if you weren't such a bad healer, if you weren't such a griefer, if you didn't ninja loot gear you wouldn't have been kicked. But saying all that is a bit silly isn't it? Because A. we are just making up these labels and assumptions and B. telling OP these things doesn't change a thing because OP believes he was kicked for skipping conversations.

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CaptRogue
11.02.2013 , 09:38 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
Omg. I think you need learn how understand what you read. I dont need advice of english teacher. Really. I repeat again - they press esc and kick me. So simple. Who said that Im russian? I understand that cause i know that their guilds from Russia. So, I repeat again - this posy not gor genius like you. This post for BW. I dont need your advice. Bb.
1. No, your post was atrocious! Very horrid grammar. Sentences with words that did not make sense. You NEED to learn how to type correctly if you're going to post anywhere were the public reads it. Make it at least understandable, other than angry rants & more QQing.

2. You did NOT say they pressed Esc & kicked you, till way into the posts. Page 4 or 5 maybe. Which is funny because now you have changed your story. You said they asked they asked who didn't skip & then kicked you because you were the guilty person. But now you're saying they just Esc the story line & kicked you...GET your story straight. You're not making any sense. But then again, you've been struggling with making sense since your O.P.

3. I did NOT say you were Russian. You just brought the Russians into this out of the blue. Why I wanted to know how you knew they were Russian. You're assuming they all were Russians too. They may not all be Russians, could be a mixture of people in that guild, even if it's a Russian based game.

4. Yes, this post is for me, & anyone else who wants to read it & respond. IF you did NOT want Forum users to correct you on your mistakes or even comment, then you NEED to email BW privately, not post on a public forum. You have NO control on telling anyone they can't post on your thread. And if you're going to email BW privately, then you definitely need to learn sentence & proper spelling. Proper reading goes a WAY lot farther than horridly put together paragraphs!

5. Whether you feel you NEED mine or anyone else's advice, is not my concern. We've put it out there. The "Kick System" is working as intended. You're just QQing from rage for not finishing the FP for the 2nd time. When, like I said in my first post to you, you probably did not tell us the full story. Especially after seeing the rants you're putting on here in answer to peoples posts. You CAN'T take any criticism. You REFUSE to listen to advice. All you want is something that is NOT going to happen. lolz
So just continue QQing some more.
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Andryah
11.02.2013 , 11:14 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Thanks for the brilliant retort supported through reason, logic, and facts though.
LOL... yeah.. he/she really took you to the wood shed with that one.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Andryah
11.02.2013 , 11:17 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
I understand you may be upset that you are kicked, but your argument lacks quite a few things.

1.) You don't say if you had agreed on watching cutscenes or not. It always seems, for me, that whenever we ask to skip cutscenes, two people say yes, and one person says nothing. Voicing your opinion is of utmost importance.
2.) You don't say if you had had any previous issues, if your group had told you not to skip cutscenes, or if you aggroed groups here and there and this was just the "last straw".
3.) I'm not sure how you didn't get credit if you were kicked after the final convo. The 'mission completed' screen comes up immediately after the Revan conversation, and they can't kick you in the middle of the conversation. This means that they either aborted the conversation, or you're lying.

I disagree with the 'problems' with the Kick System. It's worked perfectly fine for me: a tool to kick troublesome group-members, as soon as they reach the point they're detrimental to the group. I'm not paying thousands in repair drills. Now, if you are capable of presenting a better Kick System, then, sure, you can ask them to change it. But if you have no better ideas, seems it's time for you to stop telling someone else to fix it.
/Agree.

Having watched this thread topic unfold.. I am of the personal opinion that the OP probably does what they want to do.. regardless of what the rest of the group wants. So.. vote_kick appears as though it may in fact be working as intended.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.