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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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*** Bioware! Maybe you finally do something with you "kick system"?!

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lexasaniaalex
11.01.2013 , 11:42 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by XDoggStrafe View Post
I agree, but only if the -group- you're with had decided on not skipping. Put it this way, you're running a flashpoint, everyone agrees ahead of time to skip any unnecessary fights/scenes, as they're just in this for the loot/weekly mission as it's everyones Nth time through. Suddenly, at the midway point after that first boss, a cutscene pops up. Everyone already agreed to skip it, yourself included. But now, I dunno, DarthBob the DPS is refusing to skip because "I like this scene, it has my favorite character in it!" well... what to do? He's going against the rules you all agreed upon before starting. You all let it slide, next group of enemies comes up and Bob once again does something counter to the groups agreement, he pulls a mob of enemies to him. You all have to stop, fight, and waste more time (and now credits too) fighting these trash mobs. Whatever, move along, you get to the third cutscene and -again- Bob refuses to skip. He's said he's seen this flashpoint a million billion times, but he doesn't care, he -likes- this scene. It has his -second- favorite character. I'd say vote kicking Bob sounds fair then. Sure, he skipped cutscene 2, and the opening scene. But he also has proved to be a detriment to the wishes of the group. So it's only right to kick him. It's the same as kicking a random member for rolling need on gear they can't use, pulling mobs, being undergeared, wrong spec'd, or whatever else reason you want to come up with. Bioware may have coded in the cutscenes, and the option to roll need on everything, but they also coded in the ability to skip and kick people at will. Basically leaving it up to us to decide how we'd play things.

TL;DR version - It's perfectly ok to kick someone who's a detriment to a group if you all agreed before killing things on what the plan was (which takes all of 30 seconds or so). And that the system works the way it's intended. Giving us the choice to play the way we wish to play.
"PEOPLE! Please read attentive! I skip all conversations! Just i didnt want skip last dialogue with Revan! You think its normal when you was kicked at the end of fl. cause you want skip? Lol. One more reason to rework this system! These are people who kicked me out, watched all the dialogue before. I skip them. But I will not filed a claim! If a person wants to listen to the dialogue, why should he abandon it? It may be the first time he runs this fl.? While the game will be such runners and skipper, meaning the continuation of the class storylines will be the background to please fans of the game a la Korean style thrash and WoW (no dialogue, only the label with the text, which does not even have to read)."
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lexasaniaalex
11.01.2013 , 11:45 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by disxion View Post
If the OP's story is true; i.e. that he skipped all the dialogue but didn't skip the last one and was kicked for it, then I feel sorry for him.

I disagree with many posters here who suggest that this is okay behaviour. The length of one strip of dialogue is at most two minutes. It really isn't that long to wait if one person in the group wants to listen to the dialogue because its their first time, or they just like it. Kicking players out at the end of a flashpoint, during the final dialogue, means they just wasted their whole time playing that flashpoint. And they could have been waiting in group finder for a substantial amount of time as well.

Kicking players because they roll need in gear they don't need, or they are playing their role badly is justified. But kicking people for not skipping dialogue is just silly. The total time of Maelstrom Prison's cutscenes comes to just over 4 minutes. And Maelstrom Prison is on the cutscene heavy side of flashpoints. Kicking players who are first-timers or enjoy the dialogue because you have to wait at most 4 minutes is pretty petty. Especially if its at the end of a flashpoint.
Thank you very much for understanding!
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Shinodan
11.01.2013 , 11:46 PM | #73
To original poster.

Yes the kick was justified, if you were taking this attitude to the flashpoint I can see why people would want to kick.
Stop crying about it and queue again and stop taking this crap to the forums.

However I will say one thing in your favor you should -NOT- be kicked for wanting to watch a cut-scene.

Taking this attitude about it would get you kicked though.
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lexasaniaalex
11.01.2013 , 11:48 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
If not you, it was someone just like you that I've grouped with. Are you a tank? I do not have many bad experiences in this game, and I've only had one really bizarre one....which was with the guy that you sound like. Was just wondering.
Im healer.
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lexasaniaalex
11.01.2013 , 11:53 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Shinodan View Post
To original poster.

Yes the kick was justified, if you were taking this attitude to the flashpoint I can see why people would want to kick.
Stop crying about it and queue again and stop taking this crap to the forums.
Did someone forced you to read or write in this topic? No! So get up in the queue and does not interpose your "ingenious" comments. They are not relevant here. I queued. I got kicked 2 times. Yes, I did it at the third. But I spent my time and I'd like that BW hear it and change something and other players do not have such experience!
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HelinCarnate
11.02.2013 , 02:12 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
Did someone forced you to read or write in this topic? No! So get up in the queue and does not interpose your "ingenious" comments. They are not relevant here. I queued. I got kicked 2 times. Yes, I did it at the third. But I spent my time and I'd like that BW hear it and change something and other players do not have such experience!
It is not BW that needs to change. It is your attitude. Change that and you wont be kicked as often.
Dear BW,
Please nerf paper and buff rock. Scissors is fine as is.
Signed, Rock.
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lexasaniaalex
11.02.2013 , 03:34 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by HelinCarnate View Post
It is not BW that needs to change. It is your attitude. Change that and you wont be kicked as often.
I just do not pay attention to you. You can do the same.
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Ruthlessgravity
11.02.2013 , 03:36 AM | #78
I don't know about this kick system to be honest. It's helpful at one point and very abusive the other. I got kicked because our "healer" wasn't doing much healing. Afterwards, I was kicked for trying to heal the team that was struggling and was labeled "the sux" for doing so. Starting to remind me of Mass Effect 3's multiplayer kick system...

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AlexDougherty
11.02.2013 , 04:53 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruthlessgravity View Post
I don't know about this kick system to be honest. It's helpful at one point and very abusive the other. I got kicked because our "healer" wasn't doing much healing. Afterwards, I was kicked for trying to heal the team that was struggling and was labeled "the sux" for doing so. Starting to remind me of Mass Effect 3's multiplayer kick system...
It's not the system that's broke, people kick you out, the problem lies there.
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HelinCarnate
11.02.2013 , 05:42 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by lexasaniaalex View Post
I just do not pay attention to you. You can do the same.
"You don't agree with me therefore your opinion is invalid." That is the exact attitude that gets you kicked from groups. The system is working as intended. If a majority of the players does not want that person in the group, that person gets kicked. There is no need to fix a system that is not broken.
Dear BW,
Please nerf paper and buff rock. Scissors is fine as is.
Signed, Rock.
http://www.swtor.com/r/mB5FPn obligatory referral link.