Dual Spec. Still want it.

I would think they'd put a restriction on respeccing so you can't change in combat.

(Though, in reality...you'd have to be using a macro to change your talents around quickly enough for it to be of any benefit, and I'm pretty sure those are no-nos in this game.)

I'd love it if I could flip between my TK and healing spec for my sage with a button. Sure, I can do it in about a minute with the current system, but dual-spec would enhance that.
And saving my button layouts between Vigilance and Defense on my Guardian would be wonderful; swapping those all around gets a bit tiresome.

We have dual spec, what we need is a way to save the tree and the quickbars. Thats all we want.

Yeah technically we sort of have it, we just no way to conveniently change quickly. Like where all your quickbars and points go, if there was a quick save and load setting to it that would be great, even if it was linked to the UI customisation and i mean that by we would just have to swap to a different pre-saved custom UI which would mean it would take us some times to set it up ourselves but once it's there updating it wouldn't be difficult.

If you want that then go back to WOW where they no longer have talent trees..

What we have is fine.. I would prefer to keep our skill trees.. We don't need to make our specs as meaningless as a pair of socks..

At this point we are talking about a purely convenience feature, so I really can't fathom how people can be so vocally against it. Right now, I can queue up for anything with 2-3 clicks, which is fine, but then I have to go on and click through my 14 equipment slots, click through my 46 ability points, drag my hotbared abilities around or in some cases and go through menus to reassign my keybinds even.

In my oppinion, when you can build a convenience button that saves the user from doing a completely redundant sequence of >50 clicks and going through unneccessary submenus, yes, building a convenience feature is completely justified.

Perhaps we are vocally against it because of what it did to other games?? You do realize that gaming didn't begin and won't end with SWTOR??

Did it occur to you that some ideas are just bad ideas and shouldn't be implemented..

Changing your specs is just a convenience, but was never meant to diminish the meaning of our specs.. People got spoiled in WOW and changed specs more than most people change their socks... Sometimes changing specs in between bosses.. It essentially made having a spec all but meaningless.. There simply wasn't a point to it.

Now, WOW doesn't even have talent trees.. Not to mention no true specs.. I don't want dual spec'ing here because, well first of all nobody needs it.. Second of all.. I would like to keep our talent trees and I would prefer that this game not be ruined by those that are always looking for more convenience..

Dual spec'ing also diminishes player skill because nobody specializes. It is a real pain to pug someone that thinks they are a healer because they changed spec and is now ready to heal an op.. We already have issues with player skill.. We don't need to do anything to make it worse..

If anything.. I would like to go back to the day where you had pay for it and each time it got progressively more..

I hope you can fathom all this now.. It really isn't that hard to understand.. You just have to look at the effects something has on the game as a whole.. Instead most people can't get passed their own wants or needs..

@ MajikMyst

Dude, there is no reason to be so closed minded. Just because people want it doesn't mean this will turn into WoW. I left it because of its new crappy talent system where everyone is the same bar a few different moves. Having something convenient helps players. Yes it can be seen as a bit lazy but some people don't have loads of time to spend on games so when they do get to play they obviously want to be able to get the best experience out of it, which is why having an easier/faster way to change specs and try new things will only be beneficial.

I am not being closed minded at all.. How do you think WOW got where it is today?? Dual spec'ing for that game was released shortly after Lich King.. I watched it happen.. By the time Cata was released.. Specs were a joke and almost everyone was either a Druid or a Palidin.. At least for Horde.. Those two were by far the most popular classes.. Because those classes could perform all 3 roles.. Dual spec'ing is not a good thing for the game.. It did not have a positive impact on WOW.. Don't get me wrong.. I don't have an issue with changing specs.. I have an issue with it being easy and convenient.. Like it was in WOW..

I just don't want that to happen here.. As for people's time to play the game.. Sorry.. Not my problem.. If they don't have time to play it then they shouldn't play it.. Nobody else should have to pay the consequences because someone else doesn't have the time to invest in the game.. If people want to change their spec's bad enough, there is nothing wrong with at least make it somewhat difficult for them.. I mean at least it is free now.. There is nothing wrong with jumping through some hoops in hopes of keeping dual spec'ing a little less common..

In the end it comes down to this.. The easier it is, the more people will use it.. The more people that use it, the worse the game becomes.. Then Bioware will be in the same boat Blizzard was before the release of MOP..

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This is the most needed QoL improvement this game needs. I would gladly pay millions cartel coins for it *hint*

I love the free repecs for subscribers, and the field respec perk. They feel like a real luxury compared to other games I've played (and this game, before it had those features).

But yeah, being able to save quickbar setups and skill point allotments for a couple different specs would be a nice addition.