Anti Murder Measures.

Because they are perfectly alright with those kind of people flipping out as long as they stay amongst themselves. Like I already said above, they are customers too and as long as they stay on the PvP servers where no one who's ever tried one expects normal behavior, they are not much trouble either.

Go right ahead, and I'll keep on repeating "PvP Server." Don't like it? There are other options for you. I believe you can even transfer if it affects your heart to such a deep degree.

EQ - 2000-2001, definitely not a PvP friendly game.
WoW - Vanilla - > End of TBC
WAR - Til they murdered White Lion, about a year.
Aion - 1 Year, loved the PvP. Leveling was terrible
LOTRO - 2 years. Terrible PvP. Carebears dream.
SWTOR - Since 2 months after launch.

So yeah, been around the block. What I said previous absolutely applies. Been there done that, guilty as charged. Absolutely to start conflict, and alot people will run away if they think they are going to get tuned up. Either way, whether you want to look at it as griefing or some other term, it's all conflict. It's all starting ****.

Don't have a problem with it, never will. Why I will consistently roll on a PvP server. If you don't like move along. For the record, I don't even gank, but have zero problem with some level 50/55 trying to camp my toon. I have no problem dealing with it and don't consider it an affront to my honour or some other bull. Pull up your panties and game on.

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this.

There's plenty of options for those who enjoy pvp but don't like getting ganked & griefed.

heck, I had a lvl55 camping out a chokepoint on Nar Shaddaa gank and grief my baby Warrior on a PvE server when I didn't notice I'd gotten myself flagged. meh, it happens.

move to a PvE server, when you're in the mood for open world PvP, just toggle the PvP flag. if you're just questing & leveling, leave the flag toggled off.

but believing in the very concept of "fair fights" or "honor" on an open world PvP server is where you're making your first mistake.

if you want "a fair fight", well there's Warzones and the Duel option available to you.

You can't have a fair fight in a gear-based game.

• Me: "Hey, we're in a desert."
  You: "Yes, and I'm wearing the snowsuit."
  Me: "But ... we're in a desert."
  You: "Yes ... and I brought the snowsuit."
  Me: "How many times do I need to repeat myself, we are in the DES-ERT! Y'know, like Tatooine."
  You: "Yes, and I'll repeat myself. I'm in the SNOW-SUIT! Y'know, like Wampa fur."

If that conversation seems dumb to you, then maybe you understand how I feel when people use the excuse "PvP server" for the executions I've been describing. PvP means Player VERSUS Player. Where does it say one-hit murdering of players too low a level to even think about opposing you?

Right, I'm going to waste 1,000 cartel coins on a service that probably doesn't even take human effort to achieve. Maybe if transfers were free, I'd consider it.

I disagree. I enjoy PvP, but the only options in this game are never PvP in open world, or be executed without warning even when there's a level 55 ultra-champion NPC standing right there.

Warzones may give you the fancy bolster stat, but I've lived through enough warzone executions to know it's a fair fight maybe 10% of the time. But that issue is communication or lack thereof, not unfair level advantage. I'm only talking about fairness in person-to-person in open-world PvP. (Or at least an uncentive for low-level poaching.)

Dueling? That system can use a makeover, itself. But a previous suggestion has been ignored, anyways. *shameless advertising*^

Except for its more like this.

You: Hey i wish I could play in a field, it would be so much better if i just changed it all so that I could play in a field.
Me: How about you just go play in a field rather than **** with my forest?
You: But I don't like my experience in the forest and it would be better suited if everything changed so this forest could be a field.
Me: How about you just go play in a field...

And yeah, this conversation is getting dumb. Mostly because you already have an option available that suits your playstyle. Head on over to that PvE server and toggle your flag. You can have all the experience you so chose. Big old mean 55 after you toggle that flag with all your might!

What PvP servers provide is the same experience that PvP servers have always provided. I, and others, are quite happy with where they are and rolled on them for that experience that you are so against.

Then screw the cost and re-roll on a different server. You're either

a) A non-max level character fresh to the PvP server experience and you don't like it
b) A person who already has max level characters and you don't like your lowbies getting killed.

If you're option a, cut your losses and go play the server that will better let you enjoy the game. And if you're option b then sack up and deal with the guy that ganked you with your main.

No, my analogy is correct. People just don't understand the definition of PvP. And people like you refuse to even consider what it's mutated into. Thus, you insist that the snowsuit is the proper outfit for Tatooine, because you are ill-informed on the definition of desert.

If you like getting held down and *****, fine. But not everyone is you.

For your information, I have 29 characters spanning across 9 servers. Call me an alt-a-holic or say I have altism, but I like my alts what they are and where they are. There's a method to my madness, and I just want to enjoy every corner the game has to offer. On non PvP servers, I'm flagged for PvP all the time. Want to hear a secret? NO ONE BUT ME AND LEVEL 55s RUN AROUND ON NON-PVP SERVERS FLAGGED FOR PVP! So, you say I'll enjoy myself over there, but you are mistaken.

The PvP experience doesn't have to be the bloodbath I'm protesting here. You accept it like it's a fact of life that can't be changed, but I'm stepping up and asking for a little change that's really not going to affect PvP in a negative way. Unless you're one of those cowards who can only win by taking on those 30 levels below you, you shouldn't be opposing this; it doesn't affect you.

Either that, or SWTOR should change their PvP server warning to something like

• This is a PvP server. When you get to the right planets, you will die. You have no chance of surviving encounters with other players, you will be murdered in half-second notices, and you will be taunted as the pathetic one for not already being an endgame player or even mentioning your execution as a bad experience.

Neg. You want to change an environment to suit your needs, wants, and desires. When in reality its perfectly fine the way it is.

Sounds like if anyone is getting ****** its you isn't it?

Right so you have 55's and you can't deal with someone killing one of your many alts. Good game.

1. Nothing wrong with the bloodbath

2. I feel no need to change it.

3. As pointed out earlier, I have zero problem with on level PvP. If someone ganks my alt, i have a main ready and waiting to handle it.

Deal. Then we could avoid threads like this. Please add a "Please don't have a sensitive feeler or take getting killed personally. It's just a game."

Oh thank goodness you know you're right, if you hadn't mentioned it, I never would have guessed it.

Nobody says it has to be, but most people don't have any problems at all with it being this way, on the contrary! As several people now tried to tell you, the majority on PvP servers aren't just "alright" with it, it's one of the main reasons they've gone there in the first place! And as I've already tried to point out earlier, the majority on the PvE servers are also alright with it, because it means they don't have to share a server with these people! The only ones having a problem with it is a small minority represented by you who want to have everything tailored to their personal taste no matter what the rest of the community thinks about it.

They can't do that, because even though your chances of winning the lottery are bigger than that not happening to you, Bioware can't guarantee it. What they can guarantee is that players can attack other players in many areas, which is exactly what is stated in the description!

While the description doesn't say exactly that, it's clearly stated that getting killed is not to be seen as harassment.

I agree with Justcae. If you don't like the way the server operates move on over to the PVE server or just suck it up and deal. If I want to kill a lowbie I will. I don't seek them out, but it happens from time to time. Por ejemplo, a pack of lowbies running around killing a lone guildmate. You're saying I need to keep a series of low leveled toons so that I can help out my guildmates when they're getting picked on? No thanks.

While we are at it versus does not mean a match nor does a match mean similar strength. Versus just means in opposition to, against, in contrast, etc. Match just means two or more parties be they individuals or teams or whatever that compete with one another. By those non-fictitious definitions of the word, your "murder" scenarios sound like PVP to me.

I don't know of anyone, aside from yourself, that hops onto a PVP server and thinks that they won't get ganked from time to time. It happens to us all. The definition of a PVP server has been reinforced since the days of EQ and Ultima Online. PVP servers are entirely open to all types of encounters.

You do realize that even with your change there are going to be roving packs of equal leveled players that will "murder" you? I hope you're on my server so that I can finish the job.