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shadowrouge
10.23.2013 , 12:50 PM | #3291
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
Class change is NOT the same as AC change in this game.

why? stories. stories and companions.

Ac is your class specialization. NOT different class. there is a world of difference between sage healer and sage dps as well. and yet switching is allowed.

in other words? you are using logical fallacy on top of logical fallacy.
I have learn to not care. Give them AC change or don't. But what does AC mean. Advanced CLASS. So it is in an essence a class. But if it is allowed I ask for one thing and one thing only. Give them a tag that says they have switched AC. That way those that are apposed to it can CHOSE as is their choice to not group with them.

All problems now solved. You dont have to worry about NINJA looting for their new AC and you dont have to worry about them not knowing what they are doing. Sure going to make queues longer and such but hey its a solution.

And on the not of stories. Once you hit max level YOUR class story is no longer relevant. Its now only a companion issue.

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branmakmuffin
10.23.2013 , 12:51 PM | #3292
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
I have learn to not care. Give them AC change or don't. But what does AC mean. Advanced CLASS. So it is in an essence a class.
No, it is not a class, it is an advanced class, thus the name. Each AC shares the same set of base class skills.

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shadowrouge
10.23.2013 , 12:53 PM | #3293
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
No, it is not a class, it is an advanced class, thus the name. Each AC shares the same set of base class skills.
Base skills yes, talent trees one. And BW has since before launch said AC is a CLASS. So what we say or think doesnt matter. BW says its a class there for it is a class.
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TUXs
10.23.2013 , 12:56 PM | #3294
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
Base skills yes, talent trees one. And BW has since before launch said AC is a CLASS. So what we say or think doesnt matter. BW says its a class there for it is a class.
They also said this game wouldn't be F2P...remember that? They went so far as to mock F2P games. Ironic huh? Also...read page 1 of this thread...


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18. Will be there any faction or Advanced Class change option available for purchase in the future?

We have had serious talks recently about offering an Advanced Class change option – I think that one will likely happen eventually. Species is likely as well. Doing a faction switch is considerably more difficult for us, though, due to the various quest flags set throughout the level up process, so this isn’t on the horizon anytime soon.
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10.23.2013 , 12:57 PM | #3295
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
They also said this game wouldn't be F2P...remember that? They went so far as to mock F2P games. Ironic huh? Also...read page 1 of this thread...
Actually if you watch most of the videos they later said they wanted it to be F2P it was just not possible at the start.

And as I said I am not for nor against AC changing. BW will do what they want to do. Just give the AC switch a tag and every ones concerns can vanish. You see the tag and dont want to run with an AC swtich, dump group. Now wait for another problem solved if you ask me.
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branmakmuffin
10.23.2013 , 12:58 PM | #3296
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
Base skills yes, talent trees one. And BW has since before launch said AC is a CLASS. So what we say or think doesnt matter. BW says its a class there for it is a class.
And if and when they say we can change ACs, we can change ACs. "It's always been this way" is never a good enough reason not to change something.

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gorstram
10.23.2013 , 01:00 PM | #3297
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
Actually if you watch most of the videos they later said they wanted it to be F2P it was just not possible at the start.
That is what they call back peddling, or in the case of politics, Flip-Flopping. They needed to drum up support for the game going F2P, so they said, "Well in all actuality, we wanted this from the start," that way no one would remember that they made light of F2P games to begin with.
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10.23.2013 , 01:02 PM | #3298
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
And if and when they say we can change ACs, we can change ACs. "It's always been this way" is never a good enough reason not to change something.
This is true, status quo really isn't an argument, even though without it, conservatism wouldn't exist.
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10.23.2013 , 01:18 PM | #3299
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowrouge View Post
Actually if you watch most of the videos they later said they wanted it to be F2P it was just not possible at the start.
LOL! Uh...yeah...no chance. This game cost 100-300 MILLION dollars...I'm pretty sure if they wanted to build it as F2P, they could have. Hell, after launch flopped it took them less than 8 months to make it F2P. Here is what they thought PRE-launch:
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The idea that free-to-play will take over all other MMO business models, he said is, "from a business perspective, ridiculous."
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10.23.2013 , 01:27 PM | #3300
Never I hope. Although I would be in favor of a system like in TSW. Have a "wheel" like they have but for each Class, not a one toon to play every style. At least not in this game. It works well for TSW but I like the differences' between the classes in this game.
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