ETA on Advanced Class change?

That's a given. My biggest issue with the A/C change is not the change itself, but the impact it has on gear drops. Specifically PuGs. It's an area already rife with idiots, the concern is those who would abuse it. I'm not concerned with you or Bran, it's the other soft children out there who may or may not A/C change who are in effect stealing gear from someone who DOESN'T want an A/C change, who picked the correct class out of the gate, losing gear to someone who became wishy-washy about their toon choice,. Now please keep in mind, I'm talking about actual main rolling, not house-rules regarding alt or companion rolls.

People justify rolling "Need" for alts and companions already. Adding AC change would not make this problem any worse. Like all loot rolling rules, all that is required is communication: "So we're all agreed 'Need' is for current AC only, right?"

Oh come on lol, just add them to your ignore list and you NEVER need to worry about grouping with them again in a GF PuG. The ability to swap AC's doesn't increase the chances that a normal player will become a d-bag. Those who would abuse it, already do...nothing changes.

Whats needed is a loot system overhaul. If you cant use the item, you dont get to roll on it unless its a green or BOE blue/purple. If its BoP gear then the new loot rules come into play.

So much of the opposition is based on what in my opinion seems a totally erroneous assumption, namely that AC change, if added, would be as easy as spec swap.

Not just that, but they also assume every player who would use it would be a terribad player and a d-bag who rolls NEED on everything.

People already do that.

They probably should work on their loot system a bit. If it's an armor class and main stat you can't use, you can't need it, but you can greed it. Add "need for companion" function, maybe. You can still trade any items with people in your group.

I think it's kind of ironic how if somebody made a thread about something they didn't like other players doing they would get jumped on and be told to let others play how they want because it doesn't affect them.

Yet if somebody suggest AC changes, people love to say no no no and stop somebody from playing the game their own way that wouldn't affect them.

I played EQII for a long time, and there you can switch to the other class in your section which would be the equivalent of an AC change and never once did I ever see anybody try to loot gear for the class they could switch to, only ever for the one they already were. However they also have this great system to where you can set it to where you can't need on items that don't directly pertain to your class.

That is what quite a few posters have voiced. If it were something that were a one-time event, or with a significant cooldown, then I could get on board with it. But just two pages ago, we had a knucklehead indicating that it should be something as simple as an alternate spec. That is what I'm vehemently against.

I mean, Bran, if you're serious about class-reassignment surgery, and have been taking your hormones and vitamins, and are ready for this one-time life event, then I'm proudly there with you.

I'm not going to read 82 pages to try to follow this...

When you choose an AC, you are warned that the choice is final and can't be undone. As a matter of principal, I am against changing AC because everyone agreed ahead of time that they wouldn't.

If we allow AC change, we might as well take it one step further and allow class change. I'm playing my Consular and suddenly a boss that would be much easier with a Knight, I'll just class change and this will be as easy as cake!

We, as players in any MMO, select a class that we want to experience and play it to the end. If we want to experience a different class, we roll up a different toon. AC is the exact same. There is a world of difference between the Sage and the Shadow. Switching them is no trivial thing. It's like a pro wrestler suddenly wanting to be a surgeon. It's rediculous.

I vote "No"