Hahahahah

Yes this is PvP, not PvE.
Which is why a MISS is like pooping in your own bowl of cereals.
This isn't PvE. Rotation and DPS chart is for PvE.
A miss WILL screw up your arena when you need that ability to hit.

Dude, get torparse,
reset your skill tree and remove your stance so you have 91% accuracy
Go get a friend, and duel him using just white attacks (I would use a trooper with just hammer shot because it has many different hits per use)

Do this several times (if he is a healer you can just do it for as long as necessary, it needs to be about ten minute parse to bring results close to percent)

Torparse will tell you the number of hits the number of misses and number of dodges, and the percent of attacks for each.
With 91% accuracy
You will get approx. 91% hits, approx. 4% misses and approx. 5% dodged

You realize that a miss is the worst thing ever for PvE, but in PvP the chance of that 5% miss occurring at a crutial moment is so indefinitely small that you don't ever gear for it

I.E.
The reward of having 20/20 hits versus 19/20 hits (assuming we get perfect statistical results, which will never happen) is not worth completely killing your surge and thus reducing your potential burst

Thank you. May your women be full breasted and may your Demo Rounds always crit. Maybe he'll get it now?

Well he stopped posting.....

And Alacrity is still useless, even for healers.

So, now we do have 2 factions ?

One faction argueing that "power is everything"
and the other faction argueing that "there is more" ?

Looks to me like Democrats vs. Republicans in the USA right now ...

No it's more like snaple versus everyone else

Also we where referring to surge not power

You're wrong on this point. Dodge will make a SW/JK leap miss, and you don't get rooted when the leap misses. I use it often for just that purpose, say when crossing fires or making a dash for the endzone, and seeing a warrior go flying past while you keep running never gets old. Particularly if he then sits in the fire with a confused expression.

Note the PT/Van tank leap is a Tech efect, so Dodge doesn't help with it.

While I can appreciate a good derailment as much as anyone else, the point of this thread was to say that..


The combat team knows Marauders and Snipers have too much damage AND too much utility.

This means they will get a much needed nerf. Welcome to every other class in the game (and yes, I play a Guardian but I haven't spent even one hour playing Focus or Defense. Vigilance is far from OP or easymode or whatever else).