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UndyingHadyn
10.03.2013 , 12:51 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
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Zez-Kai-Ell
10.03.2013 , 12:53 PM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Where should I start? So you are sitting there trying to facetank them? Do you know how to kite? Do you k ow what the relative radius is for smash?

Apparently not...
My first toon was a Sage.I know about eating Smashes, but even as the squishiest of squishy its easier to deal with a Smasher than the other three DPS specs...

There is no argument that is valid... You have issues against smash as an Inf Shadow, which is, quite possibly the strongest 1v1 SPEC in the game.
kite a smasher, well that is a good challenge.
Wath am trying to explain is the problem is focus and its because how make them more stronger, if you play combat or watchman you need every current cd they have, period
Still why people are not saying what tree are those trouble makers playing hun?

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L-RANDLE
10.03.2013 , 01:05 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Zez-Kai-Ell View Post
kite a smasher, well that is a good challenge.
Wath am trying to explain is the problem is focus and its because how make them more stronger, if you play combat or watchman you need every current cd they have, period
Still why people are not saying what tree are those trouble makers playing hun?
Please, everyone knows what tree we are talking about and you are wrong. Smash is only strong when players are bunched up in packs humping each other or trying to stay inside of a cuddle puddle. The damage isn't even all that bad besides the fact that it hit multiple people, but the spec and lore is based on AoE, as well as balanced offense and defense. The only plausible solution is to decrease that number that pops up when a smash hits.

And yes, you need to learn how to kite, root, snare. You got just as many, if not more slows, stuns, and Mezz that smash maras have and your stealth is far superior.. Your class has more than enough tools to limit smashers, and the good ones eat smashers for breakfast.
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Lowyjowylof
10.03.2013 , 01:07 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by NogueiraA View Post
Suposing everything crits, tell me the difference between:
Stun + Ravage. 5k,5k,9k = 19k damage.
Stun + Maul 2x. 9k, 8k(no proc) = 17k damage.
Stun + heatseeker + unload. 9k, 4.5k (x3 ticks)= 22.5k damage.
Stun + Ambush + Takedown. 9k, 7k = 16k damage.
Stun + Ambush + Series Of Shots 2x. 9k, 3.1k (x4 ticks) = 21.4k damage.

So your argument about ravage + stun is invalid. The balance between that is the right move not giving a 4sec stun for marauders because they have these dcd's... Oh wait, look at snipers, more dcd's than mara and they have a 4sec stun, seems unbalanced heh?
You're forgetting on the Merc, the Tracer Missile Ramp Up, which would get interrupted if HO isn't used and that Carbonize has a 10M range. So unless the merc uses the CC, the Mara has already leaped and Smashed or attempted to if the Merc used Jet Boost to KB. Also ravage is immune to traditional interrupts.
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Zez-Kai-Ell
10.03.2013 , 01:15 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Please, everyone knows what tree we are talking about and you are wrong. Smash is only strong when players are bunched up in packs humping each other or trying to stay inside of a cuddle puddle. The damage isn't even all that bad besides the fact that it hit multiple people, but the spec and lore is based on AoE, as well as balanced offense and defense. The only plausible solution is to decrease that number that pops up when a smash hits.

And yes, you need to learn how to kite, root, snare. You got just as many, if not more slows, stuns, and Mezz that smash maras have and your stealth is far superior.. Your class has more than enough tools to limit smashers, and the good ones eat smashers for breakfast.
With all due respect mate, seems you have serious issues against sentinels, and if you think they should take camouflage off and nerf rebuke even is that its on consideration then you have no clue how easy is shut down a combat sentinel or a watchman. and for pvp people would rather take a sentinel smasher then a guardian, most even rolled sentinel exactly because of that.
Just because most part prefer to play a brainless spec ( this is just my opinion) don't mean that there isn't other's who like to play a tree more challenging and something with more skill, i tell you again problem is the survival on focus, and you self said no doubt focus is the strongest 1v1 spec tree, so please stop trying destroy the def skills on their original state when they are essentials for the other trees, you wanna compare a 20% damage reduction for 6 secs against one for 10 secs? and dealing 15% more damage? Please go play combat or watchman and see the huge diference

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Mikeieveli
10.03.2013 , 01:22 PM | #146
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Pfft. By the time they use GBTF, I've done thrown out all my stuns and mezzes to the first person I see. Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Sounds like a Lrn2play issue there. "BW nerf this class because the player countered everything I threw at him, I have no patience and dont know how to counter classes, NERF NOW"
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L-RANDLE
10.03.2013 , 01:25 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Zez-Kai-Ell View Post
With all due respect mate, seems you have serious issues against sentinels, and if you think they should take camouflage off and nerf rebuke even is that its on consideration then you have no clue how easy is shut down a combat sentinel or a watchman. and for pvp people would rather take a sentinel smasher then a guardian, most even rolled sentinel exactly because of that.
Just because most part prefer to play a brainless spec ( this is just my opinion) don't mean that there isn't other's who like to play a tree more challenging and something with more skill, i tell you again problem is the survival on focus, and you self said no doubt focus is the strongest 1v1 spec tree, so please stop trying destroy the def skills on their original state when they are essentials for the other trees, you wanna compare a 20% damage reduction for 6 secs against one for 10 secs? and dealing 15% more damage? Please go play combat or watchman and see the huge diference
Here it is again. The autodefault "try another spec, blah,blah,blah"..
Ask Undying how much I play Smash on my Mara.

You just don't get it do you? Did you miss the memo when I said "as long as they give the other specs a proportional amount of offense"? The other specs wouldn't need defense if the offense was proportionally better. It would also mean that the difference between the specs would...... BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE LORE.

Do you get it now?
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szczypaczek
10.03.2013 , 01:26 PM | #148
they main l2p issue is with gbtf is so no brainer cd, every semi decent mara/sent can use it
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Mikeieveli
10.03.2013 , 01:33 PM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by szczypaczek View Post
they main l2p issue is with gbtf is so no brainer cd, every semi decent mara/sent can use it
Good. Part of being a decent or good player is knowing how and when to use your cds. Whats your point? Are you saying a class should have cds that only the elite should be able and know how to use? W T F are you talking about?
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Zez-Kai-Ell
10.03.2013 , 02:01 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by L-RANDLE View Post
Here it is again. The autodefault "try another spec, blah,blah,blah"..
Ask Undying how much I play Smash on my Mara.

You just don't get it do you? Did you miss the memo when I said "as long as they give the other specs a proportional amount of offense"? The other specs wouldn't need defense if the offense was proportionally better. It would also mean that the difference between the specs would...... BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE LORE.

Do you get it now?
wanna talk about lore? then where is on lore shii shoo technique anything like smash?
give something to other trees? they will not or should i remember you again that they nerfed watchman without any reason or warning?
Combat was more nerfed than buffed, wa way better before 2.0 than now and dont even say the reset on precision slash improved a lot tree, was more a nerf disguised as buff with the change on blade storm auto crit but smash still same story,
if they even would improve damage on other trees more complainers will start crying how op combat is, omg need a nerf.
like some one said: when a focus sent can tank like that something isn't right, is focus defense that are wrong not default def skills, and any smashers isn't minimal worry because we all know wath the hell even devs play, if they dont see issue then there is no problem.
If a tree does massive dps then by other hand the survival should be less but isnt the case on combat or watchman is it? now focus by other hand have everything