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Dual Spec. Still want it.


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LordArtemis
07.22.2013 , 02:53 PM | #181
Dual spec has zero effect on the value of specs IMO. It didn't have any effect in WoW (though people pretend it did) and it would not have an effect here.

It's the same argument used against free or low cost spec here....and it did not have the effect people claimed it would have. And that's that....unless some negative effect is coming down the road, it looks like those that believed reducing or eliminating the cost of changing spec would cause specs to become meaningless were dead wrong....

It was also the same kind of argument used against field respec, and again, no negative effect.

Folks want the game to remain hard in every way they possibly can and will fight tooth and nail at every convenience proposal. I get that, but just like the complaints about early speeders, connecting shuttle routes, instant travel to shuttle points, instant travel to the fleet, legacy perks like remote spec/mail/vendor.....this is a convenience feature that I expect would have zero negative effect on the game.

I do note that it seems the same half a dozen or so folks campaign against changes such as this. That is important to point out IMO.

I do believe that allowing AC change would make AC less meaningful than it is now...that is one exception I will concede and support. It is the reason I am against AC change, and I am dead set in the casual group.

But this....this is a QoL feature. Folks that are hardcore traditionalists do not like QoL features. Unfortunately this is not a hardcore traditionalists game any longer. It is now and will likely continue to be a casuals game.

Even if it ends up meaning AC change comes to the game I will begrudgingly accept it. This is a non issue IMO.

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Zadtro
09.30.2013 , 02:11 AM | #182
I agree it's not an issue but I want it more for the convenience of pressing a button and all my talents and quickbars switch in 10 seconds instead of me spending 10mins pointing all the points in and then having to change over all my quickbars. Like i said is wanted not needed, field respec is annoying, so much so that i refuse to go tank because i CBA to constantly swapping everything around every time i go to raid

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DKNS
09.30.2013 , 02:34 AM | #183
I want this too

It would be so good for hybrid classes.

C'mon BW, listen to your customers once in a while please

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Aztian
09.30.2013 , 03:51 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilora View Post
Dual Spec *is* partially functional in-game by using field respec.

The downsides to field-respec -- and what people are asking for as a QoL improvement:
  • Save actionbars
  • Save separate UI Layouts, and auto-swap
  • Save talent allocation

I see no reason not to have this. Sure it shouldn't be priority -- but it is also a very minor QoL addition that would make many people happy.

yes plz

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illgot
09.30.2013 , 04:19 AM | #185
maybe in another year or two this game will catch up to 10 years ago.

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Aztian
09.30.2013 , 04:23 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilora View Post
Dual Spec *is* partially functional in-game by using field respec.

The downsides to field-respec -- and what people are asking for as a QoL improvement:
  • Save actionbars
  • Save separate UI Layouts, and auto-swap
  • Save talent allocation

I see no reason not to have this. Sure it shouldn't be priority -- but it is also a very minor QoL addition that would make many people happy.

yes plz

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LordArtemis
09.30.2013 , 05:33 AM | #187
What I would like to find out is where our current setup is saved...client side or server side.

It might seem obvious, but I did confirm it is kept despite a delete, so I suspect server. If it could not be made to work server side, perhaps the configuration could be moved to the client side and the server would simply grab a preset setup when requested by a dual spec system.

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NogueiraA
09.30.2013 , 12:22 PM | #188
We had a thread on beta about this, pvp players was saying "it'll break pvp". I agree with them if a healing class put some hot's on self and switch to dps, would be impossible to kill a heal/dps class.

Now in 2.4 while queued for pvp or inside a warzone you CAN'T respec, so dual spec can be implemented.
Would be awesome for pve dual spec.
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BewBo
09.30.2013 , 12:24 PM | #189
I have enough trouble trying to master one spec, let alone two

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Darth_Victus
09.30.2013 , 12:29 PM | #190
Agreed.

Would love to see this in the game sometime soon.