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Andryah
09.23.2013 , 10:08 PM | #71
On September 4:
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
OP. I play on Pot5 and I have a VERY good computer and I also own FRAPS. If you would like, hit me up on Republic side as Krulex or on Imperial side as Wraiven and I'll roll with ya and get this on FRAPS. That way I can help you get a vid of this, and provide a link for the Devs to follow to see it for themselves. Just remember to place the link in your report as well.
On September 23:
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
The OP is correct. I decided to check out his spot on my way to collect the +Willpower Datacron on Illum, and sure enough the guy was there...a VERY obvious bot. I recorded it on FRAPS and will place the video here sometime tonight.
Nasty lag spike you got there Wraiven.

Did you kill the bot? Over and over again?
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Wraiven
09.23.2013 , 10:13 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
On September 4:


On September 23:


Nasty lag spike you got there Wraiven.

Did you kill the bot? Over and over again?

Indeed I did...but only for testing reasons...just to see how the bot reacts to a player attacking it.
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Imperial: Wraiven (Assassin) Krullous (Marauder) Krawl (Jugg) Xiõn (Jugg)
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Andryah
09.23.2013 , 10:15 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
Indeed I did...but only for testing reasons...just to see how the bot reacts to a player attacking it.


This is where you need real old school PvP rules.. where you can loot his corpse into nekidness.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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ObiJuanShenobi
09.23.2013 , 10:58 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
So, they are killable.. and you kill them. Weeee.. for you

You believe they are bots, and you report them. That is what you are supposed to do.

And you felt the need to come to the general forum and what? What are you trying to achieve with this thread? You can't kill them in the forum, and you can't report them in the forum because you can't name names. So.. what again is your point here?

I don't get it. Unless you are attempting to demonstrate your lack of grasp of the concept of futility.

/report them in game and move on. /report every day if you like. It's on Bioware to investigate and decide, not a kangaroo court in general forum. Kill them endlessly if that's how you get your jollies. Hell.. start a thread about it in the PoT5 forum if you like... you know.. where it's actually server relevant. This thread though.. pointless.
His point is obvious. That reporting them isn't working. That reporting them is seemingly being ignored. So he is using the forums as a platform to be heard in the hopes that a) people are aware b) that BW will answer for it. Not that hard to figure out.
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ObiJuanShenobi
09.23.2013 , 11:00 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I actually disagree with the last part Bran...this is THE place to get issues noticed imo. It's the most viewed, visited and responded to forum this game has...it's the absolute BEST place to bring up serious concerns. The legitimacy of the concerns is always up for debate, but there's no place better than HERE for visibility.
^^^^kind of a point of forums, isnt it?
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ObiJuanShenobi
09.23.2013 , 11:08 PM | #76
Wow, I commented on a dead thread. I should really pay attention to dates.
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Wraiven
09.23.2013 , 11:50 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiJuanShenobi View Post
Wow, I commented on a dead thread. I should really pay attention to dates.
It was not dead, it was in limbo. I am uploading the video to Youtube now.

By the way, which is it?

Dead Thread = Bad (Hence, "Rising a thread from the grave...beating a dead horse)
or
"Why did you post a thread about this? Google is your friend. There are other threads on this already..."

You can't win...
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Imperial: Wraiven (Assassin) Krullous (Marauder) Krawl (Jugg) Xiõn (Jugg)
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Wraiven
09.24.2013 , 01:56 AM | #78
I would like to bring everyone to the attention of THIS VIDEO in which clearly shows a player abusing the game using a hack program that is assisted by a "bot".

This player specifically has bee reported numerous times by the OP of this thread...yet almost a month later, this player is still permitted to exploit the game.


Quote: Originally Posted by Bill_C View Post
I am on the Prophecy of the Five server and generally play the republic side/ I have found 4 or 5 Imp characters on Ilum who constantly use Bots to go the heroic and mine kills.
Confirmed at least one player.

Quote:
When I attack them they go after my companion but don't attack me.
Also confirmed. The Bot never attacks players, only NPCs.

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in the middle of most fights they get a health and defense surge which delays death for a few seconds and become very tough to kill.
Also confirmed. I am in full Partison PvP gear with one Conqueror Ear Piece on this particular character with almost all pieces Augmented. (Note, there is very little difference between Partison and Conqueror gear.) This particular Bot became very hard to kill, which indicates the bot used to hack, had an AI that activated cool downs at precise times.

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I report these players (player?) over and over every day but they show right back up the next day. They are usually on at night , weekends and holidays and must be rightly judging nothing will be done. I have reported dozens of time s and the behavior continues. You say don't name and shame but if something isn't done I will name and shame and then you can ban me since you guys don't seem interested in stopping the blatant cheating.
The OP has a point here. All a Dev has to do is log on, and watch the bot in action. This post was made by the OP way back in 9/02/13. It is now 9/24/13. Yet, the player is obviously still using bots and it is obvious the GMs has done little, if anything, to prevent this player from doing it again. It is quite apparent this particular player has a clear and blatant disregard for the EULA.

Has it now become policy for the Devs to ignore reports made against hackers? I notice Gold Farmer companies who consistently spam lowbie worlds for their web sites also go extended periods of time without being removed from the game. I have to question the Devs on this one. You come to the forums and discuss forum moderation...you are instantly suspended from communicating on the forums. Action against your account is almost immediate. Yet a player can hack the game for weeks if not months and nothing is done about it. Devs...what exactly is your policy for the game now? Has your policy changed? When I see things in game like this, it truly makes me question what rules are overlooked if broken and which ones are not. Is it perhaps time to revise the rules and the tolerance levels coincided with those rules? Would sure make my gaming experience less stressful if I knew which rules were not worth my time to stop and report when I see players who abuse and exploit the game. If I knew which reports would be overlooked if not outright ignored, I could move on and not waste my time reporting these Hackers. I do not like wasting time to write out a report, if that report is going to be ignored.
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Imperial: Wraiven (Assassin) Krullous (Marauder) Krawl (Jugg) Xiõn (Jugg)
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Fidelicatessen
09.24.2013 , 02:35 AM | #79
After watching that video ... um ... I have never seen a bot before but that's not a human being behind that toon.

The game we're paying for has cheaters in it. The police in this game (devs? GMs?) clearly aren't doing their job. At this point, the DEVS need to be shamed more than the cheaters (shaming the cheaters does no good, as they are already cheating and apparently having no moral qualms).

If this thread accomplishes anything (and as a cynical 40-something, there is significant doubt in my mind that it will), I hope it will shame the devs into action. If we do nothing about blatant cheaters, the game will gradually be taken over by them.

This thread should be posted on every forum where it is even remotely relevant. Please put that last post up on the POT5 and PvP forums, at least!

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Thurinor
09.24.2013 , 03:16 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Wraiven View Post
I would like to bring everyone to the attention of THIS VIDEO in which clearly shows a player abusing the game using a hack program that is assisted by a "bot".

This player specifically has bee reported numerous times by the OP of this thread...yet almost a month later, this player is still permitted to exploit the game.
If anyone isn't sure what a bot looks like watch that vid. Good work OP and Wraiven.

Several trolls in here owe the OP and apology.

OP - +10 to your troll resistance rating for having the tenacity to stick by this. Kudos
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