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Keybinds vs clicking

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Keybinds vs clicking

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maverickmatt
09.05.2013 , 01:24 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
You are looking at it wrong tho.... keybinding *is* the groundwork skillset. You learn class mechanics, strategy/tactics, etc as you play; you gain that knowledge from experience. Keybinding has nothing to do with how much experience you have playing this game. Your baseline is either clicking or keybinding, and keybinding is a faster and more accurate playstyle.

Also there is no "lack of movement" with keybinding.


And yes, I would consider the overwhelming majority of players in PvP bad.
This is possbile, but I'm fairly sure the issue at hand at the beginning of this thread was concerning making a swtich, not starting from scratch.


And I said that Keybinding was great if you had everything else you needed, but the lack of mobility hinders you (inferred that clicking's lack of mobility is the hindrance).

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demystified
09.05.2013 , 01:25 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by madtycoon View Post
lol this is why we'll never get macros in this game, because people don't even understand that in game cast sequence macros don't even work in WoW and for some reason people think that adding macros means people will be able to just put all their abilities on one button which you can do right now anyways in swtor if you don't mind the red spam crap in the middle of your screen.

Don't pretend that keybinding means anything in the bulk of warzones or pvp in SWTOR. Binding all your abilities is so minimal in the outcome of most pvp scenarios in this game that it really doesn't matter. I constantly get 100 to 0d on my sniper when i don't have trinket up from backpeddaling, clicking concealment operatives that trinket legshot. Keybinding your abilities won't magically give you RNG crits or prevent RNG deflects or save you from poorly designed, retard friendly meta that litters this game. I could make the claim that clicking is probably even encouraged, because frankly I bet clickers don't have to worry about the global cooldown bug.
I saw your video. You kind of suck at this game which is why you shouldn't even argue about pvp. You shouldn't even be allowed to have an opinion. You click ever 2 to 3 seconds and you can't even target the ally with the lowest health. You are bad. I hope you know that.

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maverickmatt
09.05.2013 , 01:27 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by demystified View Post
I saw your video. You kind of suck at this game which is why you shouldn't even argue about pvp. You shouldn't even be allowed to have an opinion. You click ever 2 to 3 seconds and you can't even target the ally with the lowest health. You are bad. I hope you know that.
Yes because... you know..

Killing > All.

Nobody here has resorted to personal attacks. You clearly have nothing better to say, or anything to add to the argument.

Excuse yourself from this thread before you embarrass yourself further.

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Helig
09.05.2013 , 01:30 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by maverickmatt View Post
And I said that Keybinding was great if you had everything else you needed, but the lack of mobility hinders you (inferred that clicking's lack of mobility is the hindrance).
How the hell does keybinding limit your movement? I have 100% ESDF accessibility I can move in any direction 100% of the time and use on-the-move skills with 0 hindrance to my movement patterns. I work the skill keys with my pinkie, my middle finger (both mouse buttons clicked act as move forward, as well), my thumb, and, for skills that don't require movement, or are not pressed often, ring finger and index finger.
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madtycoon
09.05.2013 , 01:35 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by demystified View Post
I saw your video. You kind of suck at this game which is why you shouldn't even argue about pvp. You shouldn't even be allowed to have an opinion. You click ever 2 to 3 seconds and you can't even target the ally with the lowest health. You are bad. I hope you know that.
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you must be looking at some other video, because I don't click anything except my ops frames which I wouldn't if you could bind all 7 teammates.

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cashogy_reborn
09.05.2013 , 01:36 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Helig View Post
How the hell does keybinding limit your movement? I have 100% ESDF accessibility I can move in any direction 100% of the time and use on-the-move skills with 0 hindrance to my movement patterns. I work the skill keys with my pinkie, my middle finger (both mouse buttons clicked act as move forward, as well), my thumb, and, for skills that don't require movement, or are not pressed often, ring finger and index finger.
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(inferred that clicking's lack of mobility is the hindrance)
I think he means that clicking limits your mobiltiy. Which it does
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Helig
09.05.2013 , 01:38 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
I think he means that clicking limits your mobiltiy. Which it does
Ah, I must l2read.
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Targarion
09.05.2013 , 01:38 PM | #178
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There is no other way to put this other than you are talking absolute tripe. Clicking is just as good as keybinding? Really? So why then do people bother to keybind?
I hope you can understand that I am speaking as a person who prefers to click. I am not speaking for other gamers out there. You choose the way you feel works best for you. That attitude isn't tripe.


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Because clicking is slow, inefficient and not up to the task that's why.
That is perhaps your experience clicking, so essentially what you are saying is. You are a slow clicker, and an inefficient clicker. Okay. You have no argument from me.

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If your clicking that is entirely up to you but I guarantee you all you will be is fodder to a competent pvper who keybinds and uses muscle memory, there is absolutely no way on earth that you could click through abilities twitch style, simply using your mouse. It's not even a debate, its the stone cold truth. You will get your *** handed to you.
Well unfortunately for you, speculation is not a valid argument not even an honest one. I can't obviously prove to you over the computer that I am a better pvper than you. But I will say this. The two years I have been playing swtor, if I were still an incompetent pvper, I would have converted to keybinding long ago.

You can presume whatever you want. It will not influence my game in anyway.

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What you are saying is akin to saying you can play the piano with one finger as well as someone who use all of his/her fingers.
Well this is fail in logic, because the main difference between a piano and swtor's game engine is a piano has no limit speed rate on how fast you can go. Swtor does. We call it a cool down. You have to wait for the cool down to reach a certain point before you can trigger another ability.

Also if in SWTOR you cannot actually trigger two abilities at the same time. Then yes I would agree with you 100% that key binding is the only way to go. BUT give me just one example when you can hit two abilities at the same time and both will trigger in situ?

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And no it is not "elitist" to figure out that using more of your digits to activate abilities is preferable to using a mouse cursor (especially if it's pvp) - it's called having a brain and using common sense.
It's not an elitist to be a key binder, it's elitist to insinuate that everyone else needs to be.

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Of course you are welcome to play the game however you like and if you are happy being cannon fodder continue with your approach
If I were "cannon fodder" I would have converted to key binding long ago as no one likes to lose. Hence by all means underestimate a clicker. It only works in our favor.
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demystified
09.05.2013 , 01:44 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by madtycoon View Post
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you must be looking at some other video, because I don't click anything except my ops frames which I wouldn't if you could bind all 7 teammates.
I already told you that you are bad. Please refrain from talking especially when you think you are good. Being in denial is not going to help you improve your game. You should just practice some more. Terribad players always think they are good when in reality, they had 1-2 minutes of glory by playing other terrible players. Be happy with the well that you live in, Mr Frog, the ocean is too dangerous for you.

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Evolixe
09.05.2013 , 01:46 PM | #180
@Targarion

Let me break it to you this way, even if you were the fastest and most accurate clicker in the world, you would still not even be in a competition against me and my keybindings.

There is no room for argument here. Clicking is NEVER equally effecient as keybinding on the same person.

Sure, you can choose to click. But you have to realise that IF you were to make the switch for keybindings, you would be doing better. Regardless of current standings in the game.

I'm not forcing you to start keybinding. Nobody else here is. All we are trying to say that keybinding would improve your game over clicking. What you do with that is up to you. But saying you can compete while clicking is ludicrous.
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