Cheating and bots

Perhaps contact some of the larger PvP guilds and see if they will list them as KOS? I'm sure there are many that would like some quick kills! Too bad their armor won't take damage from it though...

Because petulant forums "call outs" of "the devs" always lead to positive results.

Surely you have a better false dichotomy than 'You are either for me or against me."

Uh read my original post to find who and where, if still confused I'll re write it with better instruction. Turning in cheating is not "hating" it is dong the right thing. Come on guys help stamp it out and quit siding with the cheaters or blaming and attacking the messenger.

Ok after some thought here are some thoughts.

The dichotomy argument is almost a valid point but the problem is if you know someone is doing something wrong and you let it happen then you are basically aiding and abetting that person. If you know a neighbor is stealing from people and you say or do nothing then you do have some responsibility for the crime. I know this is not near as important as that but it is still a valid point.

We should be able to publicly shame cheaters. Societies have traditionally shamed those who play outside the rules and it is a good restrictor of bad behaviors. We have gotten away from it in our society but it does work and not wrong in many cases.

Some of you chastise me for reporting since it is futile so why do it. Because it is the right thing to do and I want Bioware to do their jobs as I do mine.

I also posted the original thread because I knew it is a fairly small community. I know many people read these posts. I assumed the cheaters would see this, they know who I am, they know I know who they are, and I hope that they will stop at least for a while as people go to verify my accusation. Of course if they lie low for a month or so then I will look like a confused idiot. BUT at least they will quit cheating.

There is no policy against naming and shaming on the game server. You can call out a botter/cheater/ninja looter all you want in trade, general, and recruiting channels. When I run into a botter/cheater I do like you. I report them, kill them until I get tired of it... as a stealther it is easy to drag mobs to them so they do take gear damage, AND I let everyone know in those 3 channels. I also contact their guild leader if they are in a guild and let them know that the player has been reported for botting. Some guild leaders thank me. Others call me a ***, "snitches get stitches", a-hole, etc. I don't care. I got hundreds of gold farmers and exp botters banned on WoW and will in this game too.

well my plan didn't work. went back to ilum tonight and there he was cheating with impunity. looks like he had a level 50 doing the same. soi showed them, i killed them and then him again and reported them, that ought to solve it lol. it's sad but either way i'm gonna keep on reporting etc etc etc. But i'm not gonna say tHE imp's name. if i keep ReportiNg him A bioware employee may baN him eventually. saDly it takEs extreme meaZures. cest la vie

I saw what you did there....

I only know of one MMO that allows public shaming.. and even in that case.. it is the devs that post and control the wall of shame. Are you so new to MMOs that you don't know it is standard for MMOs to not allow public shaming in their forums? Seriously.. the reason they don't allow shaming is simple.. it's too easy to exploit to grief another player (I'm not saying you are doing so.. I am saying that it is incredibly easy to do so if shaming on the forum is allowed). It becomes an enforcement nightmare for the forum mods to separate wheat from chaff.

I ALWAYS encourage people like you to /report and report often. Encourage others you know on your server to observe and report as well.

All I said is that posting about it here is pointless as it cannot fix the problem. So stop playing victim here.

Your are not that powerful. In fact.. you are not powerful at all in the context of what you think you are achieving.

Umm... only a minority of active players actually are active on the forum. Forums are a minority of players in every MMO. Which is why it is pointless to try to effect remedy in a forum thread here.

Are you really so impractical of mind that you cannot understand this?

And even less difficult to do something about it. Any PvP server worth a snot would hound and pound any such bots until they are senseless and log off for good. The fact that it does not get handled by this particular PvP server means one of two things: 1) the PvPers on the server don't care enough to bother. 2) The facts are not as are being reported.

Who knows what is true here really. I have a hard time though believing that PoT5 does not care enough to handle it directly if it's a problem they feel is not being addressed by the company. It's PvP server, and the OP claims to like to PvP.. but apparently can garner no in game supporters on his faction to deal with this. No.. he has to come whining to the forum and claims doing so will drive them away. LOL.

I do know from playing years of MMOs.. that a PvP community is quite capable of beating these sorts of things down if they feel the company is not doing a good enough job at it. Instead.. it's a weak sauce exercise on the forum here and making personal attacks on anyone that points out that you can't really do anything about these low lifes by chitty chatting about it in forum here. Man up and get it done if it's that bad a problem on the server IMO. Or I guess we can continue to watch the "chicken dance" here in the forum about how the big bad bots and cheaters on the OPs PvP server are running amuck 7/24.

This is not a PvE server... it PvP.. SO do something directly about it if you feel the in game reports are falling on deaf ears.

OP. I play on Pot5 and I have a VERY good computer and I also own FRAPS. If you would like, hit me up on Republic side as Krulex or on Imperial side as Wraiven and I'll roll with ya and get this on FRAPS. That way I can help you get a vid of this, and provide a link for the Devs to follow to see it for themselves. Just remember to place the link in your report as well.