Keybinds vs clicking

Actually, Im pretty sure a scientific case could be made to prove that keybinding is not only faster but more accurate.

Imagine this situation: You are guarding a node. A stealther saps you, walks to the terminal and starts to cap, moving out of your LoS (behind the terminal). They did it wrong, so you will be able to stop them w/out using CC break. However, another stealther comes and saps you again partially through, whitebarring you and making it impossible to just wait out the CC, but you have only 2s left to stop the cap.

If you are clicking you need to:
1) click your CC break skill
2) click a GTAoE skill
3) place the GTAoE in such a way as to apply damage to the capper and interrupt the cap

If you are keybinding you need to:
1) press your CC break keybind
2) press a GTAoE skill
3) place the GTAoE to interrupt.

You tell me which is going to be faster.


The muscle movement required to press buttons pales in comparison to that which is required to rapidly move your mouse from point to point to point. Reducing the number of mouse movements (and the length of those movements) is going to increase the speed at which you perform just about anything. GCD be damned, b/c not every ability or situation respects the GCD.

Hello clickers!


A player calling you bad for clicking in pvp may be tough love,but it is still love.. feel me?

That nano second can mean the difference between success or failure.period.lets take an extreme case.. are you

trying to argue clicking your way though attempting to mark an enemy is equally effective as just keybinding green

saber?

I'm not saying you cant be successfull, i know SOME of yall peeps can.I SUCK AT CLICKNG!I hit a sticky key combo

once and all i could do for the remainder of the wz was click.I got my *** whooped!

think of it this way.. if your successfull as a clicker i guarentee you will be uber! as a keybinder.If you

suck you can be average and if your average you can be good.

or think of it this way.. how about you see a fighter get into the cage with his hand tied behind his back.what would

you say?ten fights later their 6-4.what would you say?

It's all about the way you look at it clickers.You can never be as fast as a keybinder and that difference in speed can

make the difference between success or failure.I know many of you have chosen the darkside and to yall i say this

"..Through power, I gain victory.Through victory, my chains are broken.The Force shall free me."

Again, while keybinding is abso-effing-lutely required to be a high-end PVPer, I maintain the average, casual player, who just wants to experience the game's story and maybe do a few matches of Regs on the side, will notice very little improvement. And re-learning the muscle memory, whether it takes a day or a week, is enough of a pain in the *** for it not to be worth it for that person.

This was my point.


Thanks to the guy who said, "Random Nobody".

You have effectively perpetuated the perception that keybinding is forced on the masses by elitist snobs.







I never said it was absolutely useless.

I only maintained that for the casual player, it is a pointless time-sink that will likely discourage one from playing as often.


It's like learning how to drive a standard.

Is it more economic? Yes
Does it give you more control over the car? Yes.
Is it ultimately a better option to get the absolute best performance by squeezing that extra 2% from your vehicle? Yes



But for the everyday regular average joe, automatic is easier, simpler, and remains the norm.

Its just a game as you say yet have made 1 million posts complaining about your faction being in weaker in pvp cause you always lose. And you're also a clicker. Can you not see a link here?

Hey Guys,

I would just like to chime in with my own experience. I clicked, like 10yrs ago when I was a young noob playing SWG or something, cant really remember. Pre-WoW.

Then I started keybinding often used skills. Then I started keybinding offensive and defensive cooldowns. Then I started keybinding anything there was even a 0.002% would be a useful skill in combat. Things I dont keybind are like the 60min buffs, crafting etc. All else I keybind, even resting.

I am not going to judge on people prefering to click but here's my own experience when meeting people, basicly three categories:

1. Clickers - Okay these guys will often argue that clicking is the same effectiveness as keybinding, they dont however have any experience keybinding and just shout "it's just as good" without even trying.
2. Clickers who started keybinding - Oooh these people, they start to see the light... Usually starts out small and then grows on them, getting more and more keybinds. You hear quotes such as "no idea why i clicked for so long lolz" etc.
3. Keybinders - These snobby rude selfish sons if "##%%. Oh wait I am one myself. Usually bash alot on clickers and saying keybinding is much better. However what separates these from clickers is that they actually tried both versions, while clickers are just ignorant without both aspects.

My personal opinion is that keybinding is much more smooth and effective, but I dont really care if someone wishes to click.

PvP is all about situational awareness. And you cannot boast full situational awareness if you don't constantly control your camera with your mouse. Tab-targetting is also much easier with the mouse.

From most to least, full mouse control is important to:

- Melee DPS. In the thick of the fight, it's very important to have the fullest information about the battlefield. Targets of opportunity, friendly targets that need peels, incoming threats, etc. Otherwise, you're a little more than another tunnelvisioning lemming.

- Tanks. The team is yours to protect. You can't protect it efficiently if you aren't fully aware of what's going on around you. Slightly less important than for Melee DPS, because you don't need high uptime on enemy targets - you can take a couple of figurative steps back and gain a broader view. But to maximize efficiency with interrupting and controlling multiple targets, you need your main skills keybound, and your mouse in free swing.

- Healer. Same as tank - plus because you're usually the priority target. But you're often at a distance, so you get a good view anyway.

- Ranged DPS (Snipers especially) are more forgiving in this regard, because you have a good, broad view from afar, and, if they position themselves safely, they're pretty well-protected. But for successfully kiting melee (especially in case of Sage/Sorc and Merc/Mando), you absolutely need binds.


If you're serious about PvP, you want to keybind all of your key skills. It's ok to have some utility on clicks - I'd say it's a matter of personal preference (I prefer everything, aside stims, bound - got 30-40 keys, depending on the class). And remember - the more you contribute, the less you have to be carried. To the point when you yourself have a few things to teach those who consider themselves "pro".

**** me i never knew, thank you...

People can play however they want. I think its more a frustration at the game itself. I'm sure there are plenty of times when I've died to clickers, even if I feel like I didn't mess up. I'm sure there have been plenty of times where I've been trying to peel for someone and they do everything right, I do everything right and that person still gets killed by a clicker. Its an annoyance thinking about it, because clicking is slower/easier. I just can't see a situation where clicking abilities or party frames is quicker than binding, unless you're like deformed or something.

But the frustration should really be with the game not the clicker. Its very rare that any situation you get into in PvP is going to be intended balance. What I mean is, that if both sides don't have tanks, healers and dps, equal numbers and gear, then really the situation isn't going to come down to even simple skill things like keybinding your abilities. So really clicking doesn't matter if you aren't striving to be skill capped.

Like in Kung Fu, the person still standing is right, the person who can't get up is wrong. And, unless the binder is awful and the clicker is amazing, I can guarantee that the binder will be the one still standing.