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maverickmatt
09.03.2013 , 06:18 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
Not telling people to do anything, I'm saying keybinding is better than clicking in every way shape and form and that there is absolutely no valid argument against that.

What people do with that information is up to them. If that is a discussion, I engage it. Because people that think otherwise are wrong and need their eyes opened.
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The valid argument against it is that it is NOT NECESSARY.

Again I say that this is a casual MMO. There is ZERO need to learn and apply high-level tactics to be competitive or have fun.

It was designed that way, from tab targeting to the exceptionally long GCD.

Please remind me how abilities are off the GCD and thow that somehow means that you NEED to bind them?

Oh, wait..

It doesn't.

You see, it takes no measurable time to click anything if your quickbars are remotely organised and you know their layout.. and you know your class.

The same can be said of keybinding. If you do not know your class, or your bars are laid out awkwardly you WILL STILL FAIL.


Key points:
  • Don't be so arrogant
  • It's a casual MMO; High-Level tactics are not needed
  • Organisation and Neatness
  • Knowing your class > Keybinding

Now, I've laid it out in an easy-to-read manner to assist your comprehension (which is obviously impaired by your egotism)

Dismissed.

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cashogy_reborn
09.03.2013 , 06:27 PM | #52
I would not qualify keybinding properly as "high level" play.
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Drudenfusz
09.03.2013 , 06:31 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
I would not qualify keybinding properly as "high level" play.
Sure, bad players can still suck, but good players have a higher potential with keybindings, that is why so many good players look down with contempt on players who do not even try.
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09.03.2013 , 07:05 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by madcappah View Post
Alts can be confusing. Set them up as similar as you can. On all of my alts I have breakers, medpacs, adrenals, executes, etc., all set up on the same keybindings. From there it's just remembering the different rotations and necessary procs.

I do find it funny when I'm on my sniper's first wz of the day and I go rushing into the melee like I'm on my jugg main and I'm wondering why my sundering assault won't work. I decided to make all my characters as different looking as possible with regard to size and color so I have a subconscious reference to which alt I'm on, it helps.
Yeah, that's what I try to do - keep the keybinds based on ability effects, so for instance Force Speed would be the same keybind like Exfiltrate since it is a mobility ability, and I keep my stuns/blinds/interrupts/insta aoe the same too. But some classes for instance have more defensive CDs than others, or abilities like Force Leap, which are unique and getting used to "that" button being your force leap instead of say Kolto Infusion is a bit trying, at least for me.

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09.03.2013 , 07:56 PM | #55
If you are mellee dps then you need to keybind unless you are smash spec which really doesn't need much keybinding to be effective.

A clicking concealment operatives will lose to a juggernaut or powertech that keybinds all the time.
Lastly, if you are melee, it is hard to click the interrupt button if it is not in a keybind.

This game has a lot of bad players that thinks they are good though so it doesn't matter.
I play operative healer and it takes 3 mellee clickers to kill me just because I can run around them and kite them easily. I feel like I am toying with them actually.
However, if I go up against a keybinder, it is a whole different ball game. I feel like I'm running for my life.

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BraveSirRobin
09.03.2013 , 08:54 PM | #56
I don't understand people who do not try to be their best at something. Even if you are casual about the game, you should still strive to be better at it while you are playing.

Key binding is much more efficient for several different reasons.

1) You do not have to look down (or away from the action depending on where your bars are) to activate an ability.
This is extremely useful because you keep focused on the action. You can better react to what your enemy (or space dragon) is about to do. This is worth a lot of damage/heals/protection at the end of the fight.

2) You said that if you organize your bar effectively that you can click as fast as a key binder. That is not true. If you organize your keybinds correctly, you can activate several different cds/taunts/kicks much faster than anyone can click. A skilled keybinder most likely could do twice as many non-gcd activations as an equally skilled clicker. Plus he is looking at what his opponent is doing, not the bar.

I'm not saying that you have to keybind. What I'm saying is that no matter how you want to play the game, wouldn't you try to improve? This would be the first step at trying to be better. And if you are so amazing at this game by clicking, please post a video or stream of you beating these people by clicking.
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maverickmatt
09.03.2013 , 09:26 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by BraveSirRobin View Post
I don't understand people who do not try to be their best at something. Even if you are casual about the game, you should still strive to be better at it while you are playing.

Key binding is much more efficient for several different reasons.

1) You do not have to look down (or away from the action depending on where your bars are) to activate an ability.
This is extremely useful because you keep focused on the action. You can better react to what your enemy (or space dragon) is about to do. This is worth a lot of damage/heals/protection at the end of the fight.

2) You said that if you organize your bar effectively that you can click as fast as a key binder. That is not true. If you organize your keybinds correctly, you can activate several different cds/taunts/kicks much faster than anyone can click. A skilled keybinder most likely could do twice as many non-gcd activations as an equally skilled clicker. Plus he is looking at what his opponent is doing, not the bar.

I'm not saying that you have to keybind. What I'm saying is that no matter how you want to play the game, wouldn't you try to improve? This would be the first step at trying to be better. And if you are so amazing at this game by clicking, please post a video or stream of you beating these people by clicking.
The issue I have here is that I don't click (unless I'm eating a sandwich and that pesky stealther comes to a node that I'm at). I already know all the benefits.

You still have to look at the Bars occasionally to check CD timers...


The point is that it's all muscle memory. Who's to say the muscle memory involved in keybinding is superior to that involved in clicking? nobody.

Play whatever style is most comfortable to you. You may not win many 1v1s, but this is objective pvp.. There shouldn't be many 1v1s going on anywhere.

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demystified
09.03.2013 , 10:04 PM | #58
kebinding is superior to clicking. There is no point in arguing this actually. Abilities that are off the global cooldown and abilities that activate randomly like railshot are a lot more efficient when you bind them in a keyboard or mouse button. Anybody who played in any competitive pvp games and mmo knows this. It is the reason why a lot of people buy gaming mouse and keyboards.

Some random nobody isn't going to change that.

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SOULCASTER
09.03.2013 , 10:29 PM | #59
Keyboard Turning Clickers are totally fine....as long as they stay off my team =)

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General_Aldo
09.03.2013 , 10:35 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
It's still less effecient. Takes away time that you spend looking at your cursor that could've been spend inspecting the situation/surroundings (aka more awareness).

There is absolutely NO valid argument that justifies clicking over keybinding.

Seriously, make the switch. Bind everything. I assure you, that you will NEVER go back to clicking.
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