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Almost 2 years .. and they still don't listen. Thank you BW and EA ...

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Almost 2 years .. and they still don't listen. Thank you BW and EA ...

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MaximusRex
09.02.2013 , 11:50 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Primarch_PWnD View Post
Wow, I sure am glad you were here to let us "lowers" know that T-shirts and boots in a space-faring, high-technology setting evolved over 3000 years into......T-shirts and boots....
Never said that in my post, I talked about fashion trends, like despite George Washington wearing a Jacket, Shirt, and pants, that they are stylistically different than what we wear today.

Quote: Originally Posted by Primarch_PWnD View Post
Clothes are clothes, dude. And we're playing a Star Wars game. Get a grip.

In 3000 years, I guarantee someone will be wearing a pair of pants with *gasp* POCKETS!! And I also guarantee that in 3000 years someone will still be wearing *GASP* a long-sleeve shirt....
Again, I never said, or even remotely implied that they wouldn't. I would hazard a guess that they would look entirely different style wise then they do now. Just like pants with pockets and shirts looked massively different as recently as 200 years ago.

Quote: Originally Posted by Primarch_PWnD View Post
Stand up from your computer and go take a break. Then sit back down at your computer to play Star Wars. I think that'll give you some perspective on exactly what you're saying. Because it sounds like you think the T-shirt would have fundamentally changed over 3000 years. Thus you think there should not be any T-shirts in Star Wars TOR because Han Solo wore one in the movies and that takes place 3000 years later
I think you should take your own advice, because there is no way that anyone who can read english at the 6th grade level could interpret what I said in that way. However, it seems like it would be very easy to interpret what you wrote as if we took a dozen people off the street of any major city today and sent them back in time to ancient Egypt, Greece, or Rome, that they wouldn't stick out like sore thumbs, because clothes are clothes.

Quote: Originally Posted by Primarch_PWnD View Post
.......Maybe an F-shirt for cyborgs who have 2-arms on the same side? Would that be better for you? 3000 years before the Death Star, everyone wore F-shirts because the T-shirt hadn't been invented yet. There you go: your logic, not mine.
Nope, this is 100% yours.

Quote: Originally Posted by Primarch_PWnD View Post
Give me a break and let people live....we play this game because we love Star Wars. There's literally no reason the game should actively look to break the visual appeal of Star Wars........in fact there are 1000 good reasons not to, or in TOR's case, 1.5 million.....
Its easier to give people a break when they don't come on the forums complaining about how the devs don't listen, and how they are so terrible for staying true to their own time period of the Star Wars saga. I don't want o see Darth Vader put into Rakata, and I don't think its unreasonable at all that as a Star Wars fan you understand that there are different eras, and a lot of people who play this game are Old Republic Era fans. You and OP have shown exactly zero respect to those fans, so to expect any in return is very laughable.

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Glumish
09.03.2013 , 12:01 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Undeadcenturion View Post
Ok .. lets talk about what I said about crystals. I specifically stated the black core with the multiple color schemes that come with them looking like nerf bats. IMO they are horrid and look nothing like a traditional lightsaber crystal. I even said as much in the quote you copied.
And I mentioned it was canon, and you said my post displayed a lack of knowledge of what you said earlier in this thread. Which is, survey says... false! Nowhere earlier in this thread did you mention something that combats my argument.

My argument was that the blue, green, red crystal colors are not the only canonical crystal colors. Nowhere in this thread did you say something that disproves me, but that doesn't stop you from acting like a confrontational teenager full of angst towards me. Your argument is the equivalent of "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO, HA!"

Let's evaluate what you said: Blue, Green are the only colors for Jedi, Red is the only color for Sith.
Following this logic, the following would be non-canon:
- The Clone Wars series created by George Lucas
- The Prequels
- KOTOR 1 and 2
- SWG
- Force Unleashed
- Various other works

You're also saying that the black core sabers are also non-canon, which would mean the same Clone Wars series by George Lucas is also non-canon.
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And I only get confrontational when those like yourself or one other in particular make statements telling me it is Canon .. or the armor in the game is fine ... or that the armor in the game is supposed to look completely different then in Ep 1-6 because of the time frame .. although for Jedi .. It's been stated time and time again that they have basically worn the same attire for thousands of years.
Funny thing here, you recently called me 'lazy' and told me to go back and read your posts when you clearly didn't read mine. Nowhere in here did I stand up for or even mention the armor in the game, I was just pointing out that the other lightsaber colors are canon. Yeah, they are. Deal with it.

You got confrontational because you're acting like an angsty child who can't read or formulate decent arguments to what people say here so you just spaz out like a moron and go off about random topics. My first post towards you was in no way confrontational, but you didn't hesitate to insult me and devalue my perfectly acceptable statements.
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You like the armor in this game? Good. I am genuinely happy that you do. But I, along with others are simply not happy with our options for the Jedi class.
Again, we were talking about crystals. How about you actually spend some time in school learning the art of 'reading comprehension' instead of skipping it to make pathetic arguments here.
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However, the fanboys in here are already so excited if they fart they will jump to lightspeed themselves, so if I may I offer some sage words of advice...

Check your expectations.

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JimG
09.03.2013 , 12:11 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Undeadcenturion View Post
I keep thinking with each big patch that BW and EA will hit that point where they might actually listen to us. After almost 2 years it's clear .. it will never happen.
Oh stop. There have been numerous situations where they have made changes or improvements based upon player feedback.

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Aries_cz
09.03.2013 , 12:27 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Sentinel-Jordal View Post
NO BW/EA it's NOT Fun to spend millions of my hard earned credits (had to kill a lot of siths scums to get them. Because get a mission to kill someone, steal their loot and then get paid for the killing is the jedi way right? )
to move mods from this CRAP to my nice jedi robe!!!
Just my two cents...
Would you mind sharing your awesome Jedi robe with the rest of us?
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Drudenfusz
09.03.2013 , 12:32 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Glumish View Post
And I mentioned it was canon, and you said my post displayed a lack of knowledge of what you said earlier in this thread. Which is, survey says... false! Nowhere earlier in this thread did you mention something that combats my argument.

My argument was that the blue, green, red crystal colors are not the only canonical crystal colors. Nowhere in this thread did you say something that disproves me, but that doesn't stop you from acting like a confrontational teenager full of angst towards me. Your argument is the equivalent of "YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO, HA!"

Let's evaluate what you said: Blue, Green are the only colors for Jedi, Red is the only color for Sith.
Following this logic, the following would be non-canon:
- The Clone Wars series created by George Lucas
- The Prequels
- KOTOR 1 and 2
- SWG
- Force Unleashed
- Various other works

You're also saying that the black core sabers are also non-canon, which would mean the same Clone Wars series by George Lucas is also non-canon.
Oh, the discussion is now also about colour crystals? Here my two credits.

Lacas had at first only blue and red in mind, as a contrast and making sides clear, but then with Return of the Jedi, he wasn't so sure, he didn't liked the idea of a blue lightsaber an blue background sky in the fight on Tatooine, so he decided that Luke's second lightsabre would be green.

That was all the colours we had for about a decade, then in the early 90s comics and new novels gor written and nobody cared to keep it just with these three colours. And why should there only be three.

So, more colours got added and even some very stupid, like silver (which is only a metalic reflection and thus cannot be the colour of light or of course the dreaded black cores). But always some fans liked them, and Lucas had no big issue when Samual Jachson asked for a purble one.

I think, people should either be made that even green exists or they should see Star Wars as what it is, a fantasy that is supposed to break any rules and be about the awe, inspiration and dreaming about new possiblities.

And that is where we come full circle back to the armour sets in the game, they also should expand options, not just show us what we already know and have seen, but surprise us with new ideas. For me that was always what Star Wars was all about, plenty things to discover, always showing new things, new worlds, new aliens, new star ships... and on that regard, SWTOR gave me new things I had not seen before in Star Wars (and I am currently looking forward to the next PvP armour set, hope they change it not to much, think it looks pretty neat).
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Undeadcenturion
09.03.2013 , 12:35 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Glumish View Post
Let's evaluate what you said: Blue, Green are the only colors for Jedi, Red is the only color for Sith.
Following this logic, the following would be non-canon:
- The Clone Wars series created by George Lucas
- The Prequels
- KOTOR 1 and 2
- SWG
- Force Unleashed
- Various other works

You're also saying that the black core sabers are also non-canon, which would mean the same Clone Wars series by George Lucas is also non-canon.
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Again .. I said for me. I also said if others want to use them .. go for it. Be happy with them. But they are not for me. And IMO they look horrid.
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LordArtemis
09.03.2013 , 05:08 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Undeadcenturion View Post
Again .. I said for me. I also said if others want to use them .. go for it. Be happy with them. But they are not for me. And IMO they look horrid.
Just keep in mind that you speak for only yourself, and you do not have to qualify your opinions. If someone doesn't agree that does not mean your suggestion is invalid. It only means it is invalid to them, which means next to nothing.

It is Bioware you need to convince. My guess is you will not convince them by calling them jerks.

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Anysao
09.03.2013 , 06:01 AM | #68
Yes! They don't listen to us on ANYTHING!
Like for example, that sittable chairs rubbish! Oh wait...
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=636528
And then there were PvP arenas, which was said that they'll never happen, even though players wanted them!
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=670748
And worst of it, space! Space in this game is just a scroller, and BioWare failed to give us a flight simulator space!
Oops. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=676650
Yes, BioWare NEVER listens to us. Don't even get me started on how they didnt listen to the plea for decieved trail or armor!
Ooh! In Elder Scrolls Online, I get magic spells and colossal PvP! That sounds cool, but one question, where do I get a lightsaber?
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curtkram
09.03.2013 , 07:58 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Anysao View Post
Yes! They don't listen to us on ANYTHING!
Like for example, that sittable chairs rubbish! Oh wait...
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=636528
And then there were PvP arenas, which was said that they'll never happen, even though players wanted them!
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=670748
And worst of it, space! Space in this game is just a scroller, and BioWare failed to give us a flight simulator space!
Oops. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=676650
Yes, BioWare NEVER listens to us. Don't even get me started on how they didnt listen to the plea for decieved trail or armor!
we have sittable chairs? tell me more. can my toon sit at any chair in any cantina? was this tied to an emote available to my character? like if i log in now, is it obvious how one sits in a chair and i just missed it?

you link to a thread topic to where a dev said they want pvp arenas, not the players. sure sounds to me that a lot of players are sad there will not be an objective based 8v8 ranked warzone. since the game started, i've seen more threads asking for sittable chairs and toggleable hoods than i have for arenas.

and space...... if i log in real quick, i'm pretty sure it's still a rail shooter. it's great they have a video and said there will someday be a space thing of some sort, but so far it looks to me like they aren't really any closer than they were 6 months ago (except for the part where they made a teaser video that i'm pretty sure doesn't show any gameplay footage)

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Drebs
09.03.2013 , 08:12 AM | #70
Jedi apparel. Of all the issues that are involved in making an MMO--keeping new content rolling out, keeping the playerbase entertained, updating systems as the gameplay grows stale, speeding the leveling curve to make high-level content accessible to newer players, and doing it all under the umbrella of a grand narrative--with all these things, you want BioWare to reach into your mind's eye and create more Jedi apparel options to match your exact vision?

There are like, thousands of combinations of apparel at this point, and you cannot find a single one that satisfies. And yet this should somehow be given priority. Do you find you're generally a difficult to satisfy person? Because I'm thinking the problem here may not be with the game.