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Why Smash Should Not be Nerfed

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Why Smash Should Not be Nerfed

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szczypaczek
09.03.2013 , 03:35 AM | #101
u see ppl complaining, cause the smash problem is the pinnacle of the "what's broken" list
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Evolixe
09.03.2013 , 03:40 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
A reasonable inference to make when the vast majority of the discussion surrounding class balance seems to be focused around "nerf smash", or satire posts like "smash needs buff b/c can't heal to full!". Most people on these forums don't see to want to discuss or complain about the other balance stuff that needs to be done.
********. Get out of that box please.

And don't EVER compare me to the average poster again.
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iheartnyc
09.03.2013 , 03:44 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
********. Get out of that box please.

And don't EVER compare me to the average poster again.
Well my OP wasn't directed at the more rational-minded people on the forums. It was meant to be controversial and read by the "nerf Smash but can't raelly explain how it ties into the overall balance of the game" camp.

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ToMyMa
09.03.2013 , 03:55 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
********. Get out of that box please.

And don't EVER compare me to the average poster again.
Evo... Sometimes you ARE the average poster, just like everyone is once in a while. So take a chill pill walk out of here before something bad happens

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Helig
09.03.2013 , 03:55 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
Requires so much target uptime? Why? Why do they require that?

Last time I checked, it was okay if you would be forced to hold back and play defensively for a brief moment when you get low. Not be even more offensive because your cooldown will handle it anyway.

Undying is stupid, marauders should have to fall back everytime they have to use undying now rather than steamrolling forwards. And if you can't do that, you die. Simple as that.
Carnage requires more uptime than Smash, or Infiltration, for that matter. I don't really oppose nerfing Smash active survivability, because it has pretty solid passive mitigation, compared to other specs, as far as Marauders are concerned.

Most classes that are positionally vulnerable due to combat system design have the "don't kill me" fallback skills, or skill combos. Juggs have the mighty Endure Pain+medpack/Intercede. Sins/Ops get Vanish. Commandos get AR+HTL+3 instant heals combo(ok, a stretch, but saved my arse a lot of times). PT/Vanguard survivability gets a much-welcome boost in 2.4.

Sorcs can.... LoS and heal to full (sorry, couldn't quite help it).

Also, why so angry about being called an average poster? Could mean anything. Unless you aren't as secure about your knowledge and experience as you're trying to demonstrate.
Quote: Originally Posted by szczypaczek View Post
i'm saying that smash maruders have too much survivability, and undying rage in its current form is a joke

Op u didn't post any good arguments either, you are just afraid of a nerf that is fully justified.
I run all AC types at 55, and I think I have a pretty good idea of balance from most possible viewpoints. You're probably just hurting over a traumatic experience.
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Evolixe
09.03.2013 , 03:56 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
Well my OP wasn't directed at the more rational-minded people on the forums. It was meant to be controversial and read by the "nerf Smash but can't raelly explain how it ties into the overall balance of the game" camp.
Yet half of your arguments are at the very least too closely minded to mean anything.. if you do something, do it right.

This was just bad.
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Helig
09.03.2013 , 03:58 AM | #107
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iheartnyc
09.03.2013 , 04:08 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Evolixe View Post
Yet half of your arguments are at the very least too closely minded to mean anything.. if you do something, do it right.

This was just bad.
I feel you need to counter extreme bias towards one direction with extreme bias towards the other. You can't fight emotion with logic.

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Evolixe
09.03.2013 , 04:49 AM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
I feel you need to counter extreme bias towards one direction with extreme bias towards the other. You can't fight emotion with logic.
Your post is the exact opposite of logic..
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PhatMcMuffins
09.03.2013 , 05:04 AM | #110
I do appreciate the how the OP has stuck to his guns, his old crazy guns.

Essentially, he believes healing needs a nerf but smash should stay the same.

Do you play a healer, friend? There is no reason to bring a healer if a single dps can cancel him/her out because then you might as well bring another dps. As I said before, op heals could afford to take a hit to energy management (say, pre-2.0 standards when kolto probe actually cost a fully geared op something) while merc heals need serious help and sorc heals need an exclusive defensive cd
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