Why Smash Should Not be Nerfed

I can do that but first you need to tell me how am i supposed to beat a sniper as a guardian.

wow the amount of bads in this thread is insane. Smash should be nerfed, make vengence viable and nerf the survivalbility of mara's. /thread

Marauder/sent - the only class in the game that has no 4sec stun. Oh, this is why they have more defensive cooldown and dps output
"would be ridiculous if they could stun + ravage"... Oh wait whats the difference between:
assuming all hit is a crit..
stun + 9.2k maul + 8k maul
stun + 12kseries of shots + 6k followthrough
stun + 14k unload + 10k heatseeker

People really forget about that marauder can't 4sec stun you.

I dont understand why the health reduction on Undying Rage was reduced.... among other things.

Dam who else hates that long term vanguard stealth?
Also I agree smash is fine but marauders/sents need their tank and heal trees increased.

14k unload LOL. NEVER seen that! The 10k heatseeker is extremely rare. Both of those would have to be proc'd by tracers too. Besides if the stars did align and you got this and the marauder wasn't using a defense while you did it (the damage would be sooooooo much lower if they were) that marauder could just disappear! If you start to proc the smasher with tracers they usually hit one of their DCDs and then jump over and murder you. Or reappear and murder you. Also, remember the crit chance is small for other classes. 99% resistance of 24k is 240 damage. How much defense do I get when he retaliates? LOL

Also the people that think range is the counter forget that marauders have significant ranged attacks and leap. Their leap also interrupts...oh yeah they have 2 interrupts.

I see that if a sniper has all his DCDs and you have none you might be in trouble. But other than that I think you could manage.

This thread and it's OP is one big joke. Can't even take this seriousely.

Yeah, because maul, SoS, FT, unload and heatseeker are autocrits.. Oh wait.. Marauder during a 4sec stun:
8k smash -> ravage for -at least- 3.5k+3.5k+6k = 13k + 8k = 21k damage dealth within a stun.

yes give them 4 sec stun and take away undying rage

btw 14k unload with all ticks cirtin for almost 5k is rare, 10k HSM/demo round rare, pls give it autcrit mechanic

Force camo increases movement speed by 30% for all mara specs.

Annihilation has a talent high up in it's tree that boosts it further.