Players with a sense of entitlement

The general consensus I'm getting is that "proud casuals" are white knighting this issue because they want more sandbox features and single use content.

Fun dynamic repeatable content should be bioware's goal. Replay value is what gets money in the MMO genre.

This thread and others like it disgust me.

Bioware bait and switched with FTP. Now they realize they have sandboxers from SWG that wll pay money to do nothing and play dress up with their awesome jedii's....

It's no wonder they stopped making quality content to service these people.

Quality content actually requires effort and investment.

A great example of a random person on a forum thinking they know best how to make an MMO profitable.

Bioware/EA have made many mistakes when it comes to SWTOR - to suggest that you know better is a tad on the comedic side and amusingly you aren't alone, the forum is full of people just like you.

Even more amusingly, they have different priorities when it comes to what is the number one priority for type of content.

why do you think you know better than him? and what makes you think you know more about bioware's priorities? is it because you're an employee of bioware?

you know what all of the players have right now that bioware has never had when making decisions? hindsight. also, experience playing the game they designed. that give us a pretty big advantage in critiquing the game if you think about it.

you're a random person on a forum criticizing a random person on a forum for being a random person on a forum. pot --> kettle.

Yes, but we lack metrics and perception.

The thing here is, we do not own SWTOR. Bioware owns SWTOR. We are along for the ride, and paying them to let us access the good stuff. If you subscribe to a magazine, do you write in requesting they stop running as many advertisements? You can't control it, really. MMOs are different, of course, and feedback is accepted by Bioware because they want people to enjoy the game so they can make a profit from it. So they control where this game goes, really. We can only just influence it.

iloled.

Thats the problem letting self appointed gurus direction the game is fail. Tjey should do internal testing enough and not rely on players to provide parses and other data that can be altered

They should have one dev at least with a future vision of where the game goes instead they rely on the wrong forum idiots. They should have more internal creativity instead on relying outwardly on everything.

I dont mind waiting months for content either but when its a tiny moon with 0 flight paths and 5 queusts either they are t working as much as the say or are incompetent

Mmm...

Today under the current political "correctness" atmosphere we live in, entitlement is a dirty word and often used to insult people who have different opinions of fairness on a trade.

At least the OP tried to put some context as to what he thought fair trade would be...

Let us really think, what entitled, does mean...

If i enter a McDonalds and see for $5 I can buy the Big Mac Value meal, the picture shows a medium coke, medium fries and the Big mac burger. So I tell the employee, I want the Big Mac Value meal, and he asks me for the $5 the sign advertised, and I do give him $5. It would stand to reason that for the $5 I paid, I better get my medium coke, medium fries and my Big Mac. I would venture to say, since I paid the $5, I am entitled to a Big Mac, medium fries and medium coke. In this reference the word entitled is correctly used.

Now say I go to the same store, and see somebody receive a Big Mac Value meal and paid for it; yet I choose to demand I should receive the same meal the person ahead me paid for, but I should only pay $2 because i am entitled by a lame excuse. Thus the word entitled has earned a negative interpretation.

So when we look at SWTOR at as a game, and we pay the monthly fee, its at that moment that the fair value of the trade gets cloudy real fast. Before Free to Play, you paid the $10/month and you got it all, there were no stores, etc. When free to play came around, suddenly things changed, we still continued to pay the $10/month but now lots of stuff had to be acquired through a store and a stipend in store credits was given to you as a part of your subscription payment to get "some" of goodies now only available through a store concept. Obviously if you are an old timer such as me, who had been paying subscription rates for decades and have been receiving everything the game had to offer, suddenly learning that my subscription now only buys me a large percentage of the game, and I get a token credit that affords me a very small portion of the rest of the game I am missing, the feeling of being "short-changed" can't be avoided, and a sense of entitlement may very well be justified... Hey I paid my $5 how come I only got a burger and a coupon to redeem a few fries? Now I have to pay for my drink, and pay more to supplement my coupon to get a medium order of fries?

I had posted in the past as a suggestion, that instead of charging me $10/month for a three month subscription and get partial product, I owuld be happy to pay $15/month for three month subscription and get it all as it once was long ago...

Sue

I wholly agree with this sentiment.

The customer service representative is supposed to approach the devs with what the community wants (in a perfect world) The devs make too much money to sit there and listen to the community, so they hire these guys. The first one got fired (I forget his name Stephen something?) just before the game went F2P.. I wonder why.

There is a serious disconnect from what the devs are hearing and what we, the customers are saying.