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TUXs
08.29.2013 , 09:01 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Ahh...there it is... the classic "don't like it, don't play it".

Are you basically saying if someone wants to suggest something about the game, they should unsub? If someone isn't satisfied with one particular thing about the game, they should unsub?
No kidding. It's almost as common as calling someone "entitled" is.
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hadoken
08.29.2013 , 09:31 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Ahh...there it is... the classic "don't like it, don't play it".

Well, that's your opinion

Are you basically saying if someone wants to suggest something about the game, they should unsub? If someone isn't satisfied with one particular thing about the game, they should unsub?
No, I'm not basically saying that at all. I'm rather specifically saying if you don't appreciate what you're paying for, don't pay for it. The context here is about 'customer appreciation' not 'game enhancements'. Stay with the subject.

Also, unlike a lot of things you can still play the game without paying for it - so I NEVER said nor implied that.

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Blackardin
08.29.2013 , 10:03 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
Quite frankly if you don't feel like you're getting your money's worth from the sub, you should just unsub.

Plenty of people have, you wouldn't be the first. I don't need BioWare to throw bones at me to make my $15 a month feel more worthwhile. It already obviously does, or I wouldn't be paying it.
Agree. Disguising an ungrateful assertion as something else does not change the intent.

Look, Unrestricted access 24/7 for the price of a 1/4 cup of my morning coffee minus 5 dollars worth of cartel coins each month for a discount.....and they "appreciate" that to the point they send me a free gift of another 5 dollars worth of coins? LOL

Are people seriously complaining about that?
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TUXs
08.29.2013 , 11:48 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken View Post
No, I'm not basically saying that at all. I'm rather specifically saying if you don't appreciate what you're paying for, don't pay for it. The context here is about 'customer appreciation' not 'game enhancements'. Stay with the subject.

Also, unlike a lot of things you can still play the game without paying for it - so I NEVER said nor implied that.
Right...customer appreciation...meaning I (as a customer) feel appreciated by Bioware. You're using it wrong to think I should appreciate Bioware for taking my money...of course they appreciate my money, but I don't appreciate them taking it. I enjoy the service I pay for and feel it's a good value, but I'm not appreciative of paying...that's nonsensical.
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hadoken
08.29.2013 , 11:53 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Are people seriously complaining about that?
Apparently, I've given up caring at this point :P

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08.29.2013 , 12:40 PM | #66
Hey, class balance would be enough "subscriber appreciation" for me.
I'm tired of my sorc not being as viable as my sniper for, well, anything.
Right now class balance in PvP and PvE is silly and I'd rather they work on that than some silly fluff item.
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Cyberwoman
08.29.2013 , 02:40 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by ImpactHound View Post
BioWare said they were going to provide subscriber appreciation beyond the normal benefits you get from the service. It's unclear exactly what that would be, and if they didn't have a clear plan in place, probably shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place.
Perhaps, although from what I remember didn't BW say they canceled/delayed that thing because of technical difficulties? It must be a hard call on when it comes to announcing new and upcoming features. If you announce you are working on something but it fails/has to be delayed, the community gets upset. But if you keep quite about such hot discussions, then the community accuses you of ignoring them.

Personally speaking, I think they should just keep quite about most issues (Apart from say, and expansion) and wait until it is ready for the PTS at least.
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HoloTweed
08.29.2013 , 03:58 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by KylanJin View Post
Obviously you didn't read the OP,

It seems like you must have nothing better to do than defend multi-national multi million dollar companies from the little guys.. your being in the thread to even say that holds little to no benefit to anyone in any way.

How about focusing on the message, whether it's clear as an un-muddied stream for you or not, I'm sure you understand it and I'm certain you're just choosing not to..
Oh, but clearly I DID read the OP. Obviously you didn't read any of my posts. Nothing new was brought to the table with this thread, but more to the point, the OP didn't HATE to bring this up again, he LOVED to bring it up again, he went out of his way to bring it up again - thus tainting everything he said that followed.

But in the department of comprehension I'd say YOU'RE the one who seems to need a refresher course, as I said not a word defending Bioware in my posts. Your comments about such hold little to no benefit to anyone in any way.

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Arkerus
08.29.2013 , 05:25 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by KylanJin View Post
This response pretty much sums up the roll over and shut up idea..

I may be a paying customer for this item but I have experience in the industry, do you?

Yes, if we do not strive to have more communication, if we don't tell bioware what we want then we dont get, and as i said, I have a right to post on the forum - Bioware gave me that right, that voice, they obviously wanted me to have it, as well as you all.

Now back to the point i was trying to make.

Couple of quotes for ya,

There are attempts, and there are accomplishments. Histories only praise one.
Ylenic It'kla

Deliver more than you promise.
The best way to be always certain of this is to deliver much, even when you promise nothing.
Tho-Mes Drei
Your entire first post was an attention grab and you just don't like being called on it.

Quotes? Lol.


Anyway. I never complain when people bring up reasonable questions and criticize appropriately. I know I post my disagreements all the time. But posts like this aren't grounded in any real complaint. Its just armchair posturing from someone who really has no idea what they are talking about and could have posted in the 10 other short threads about "communication."

And when I say communication I mean "tell me what I want to hear."
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Alec_Fortescue
08.29.2013 , 06:20 PM | #70
Wondering if the Rakghoul event will be sub only (and thus considered an appreciation).
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