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Hate to bring this up again... BUT..

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Hate to bring this up again... BUT..

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ThiborF
08.28.2013 , 11:54 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Entitlement at its worst.

If you feel like the product doesn't meet your demand then be a better consumer and decide how to spend your money.

You are using a typical framing bias by creating a problem from your reference point when in reality a problem doesn't really exist. It is your perception of value and one that can easily be solved by being a better consumer...

OR by accepting the reality that you ARE happing with the product but you just want something else for your money...which would be classic entitlement.
So if you buy a car and the dealer tells the car being delivered to you will be all-wheel drive and have leather interior and when it comes in you discover without any forewarning from the dealer, it has 2-wheel drive and cloth interior, do you simply happily take the keys from them or do you question what happened from when you agreed on what was to be included and what you're being presented with?

This is NOT a case where the OP and others simply feel that because they pay $15/mo they deserve more.

This IS a case where Bioware said, "Hey, we'll have something cool for you soon" and never deliver on it.

The first is a consumer setting false expectations and then disappointed because reality doesn't match what their dreamed up expectations were. And admittedly that happens a LOT on game forums.

The latter is a company setting the expectation by their own communication but, when they fail to deliver on it or even communicate a reason/excuse/apology, some of their consumers get upset. And that is the case here.

Personally, I'm back after nearly a year of time off simply to kill some time seeing some class stories to completion while I wait for Wildstar, ESO and further out, Star Citizen. So for me, I really don't care except to point out the fallacy of your attack on the OP's statement.

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TUXs
08.28.2013 , 12:05 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
Entitlement at its worst.
I love this word...

Please explain to me how you feel it fits in this case though...

Bioware said they had a 2nd gift planned but were having technical difficulties with it. OP brings it up and asks what ever happened to that gift, and suddenly he's being called "entitled"?
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branmakmuffin
08.28.2013 , 12:18 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by KylanJin View Post
Unsubbing to prove a point is actually a good way of telling a business that you're not happy with their methods/quality of product or service, sure.
Unsubbing is actually the best way to send a meaningful message. If you complain but keep paying anyway. why should they care about your complaints?

And if you truly did hate to bring this up again, you wouldn't.

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DarknessInLight
08.28.2013 , 12:20 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Lemme guess...you don't have a job that deals with customers right? (retail/fast food doesn't count)
Retail doesn't count?! The public doesn't count?!

Your logic is a little misplaced, my friend.....
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TUXs
08.28.2013 , 12:28 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by DarknessInLight View Post
Retail doesn't count?! The public doesn't count?!

Your logic is a little misplaced, my friend.....
Nope, retail doesn't count. My logic is sound.
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Andryah
08.28.2013 , 12:41 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Unsubbing is actually the best way to send a meaningful message. If you complain but keep paying anyway. why should they care about your complaints?

And if you truly did hate to bring this up again, you wouldn't.
Not what the OP wants to hear.. but it IS the truth. Especially in gaming forums.. where there is so much rampant faux-threats to /quit.
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Trenter
08.28.2013 , 12:43 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by ThiborF View Post
This IS a case where Bioware said, "Hey, we'll have something cool for you soon" and never deliver on it.
No, this IS a case where Bioware said "Hey, we'll have something cool for you soon" and then gave us a sub-only Tauntaun. It seemed a lot of subscribers enjoyed that quite a bit actually.
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TUXs
08.28.2013 , 12:57 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Trenter View Post
No, this IS a case where Bioware said "Hey, we'll have something cool for you soon" and then gave us a sub-only Tauntaun. It seemed a lot of subscribers enjoyed that quite a bit actually.
Where was it ever stated that the tauntaun was "the gift"?? Link please?
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ImpactHound
08.28.2013 , 01:00 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Where was it ever stated that the tauntaun was "the gift"?? Link please?
I wouldn't consider it the gift either, with 4 new colors coming down the pipeline.

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Trenter
08.28.2013 , 01:10 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Where was it ever stated that the tauntaun was "the gift"?? Link please?
They have to tell you when to start feeling appreciated? Was it ever stated that there would be a big "the gift!" sign attached to it in the first place? They put in a version of a mount just for subscribers, and for a reduced price. It seemed to me that a lot of subscribers really liked that. I for one felt appreciated as a sub right there.
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