Why The Death of Ranked is a Good Thing

Shinarika, I'm really disappointed in your point of view regarding ranked warzones as I have been an avid fan of your previous work and I would have thought you'd have been for all types of pvp in the game. I know that you have been an advocate of hybrid specs for your Shadow and Sin and would have thought that you'd have been for diversity in the overall state of the game.

Regardless, I'm voting this thread a 1 as terrible because in my opinion the death of ranked is NOT a good thing and would only alienate the staggeringly small pvp community that we already have. I love this game and want to see it succeed.

I'd like to divert players who share my sentimentality towards Bioware's Reality Check and also for all the Marauders in the community to voice their opinions on post #137 in the marauder class rep question/discussion thread.

No **** since you can only do operations once a week.

Implying all guilds who does nightmare mode every week clears it till the end.

Also ever heard of progression? When content comes out, you don't simply clear everything in one week bro.

Sorry but you're a joke to this community.

No **** since you can only do operations once a week.



Yes. It would be different if 2 teams of 8 can challenge each other directly.

I don't think you're grasping the concept of our argument, but by using your logic then surely ranked warzones are better for the community as a whole for the pure and simple fact that there are no lockouts for ranked as opposed to its end game pve counterpart????? Derp, what a silly arguement.

The fact that ranked is by far more popular than NiM operations, require less work (less development and testing time) should be enough for the developers of the game to go "well it's less work, we get more subscribers in the long run and we keep the community happy by not removing featured content that's been in the game for over a year."

Your position is understandable But in reality its not the ranked you want, but the ability to face other pvp guild teams in 8v8 warzone maps. The ranked portion of ranked warzones is a flop with limited participation even on PvP servers anyway so it does not matter. This is exactly why most people do not care about this since rwzs was not something they could do anyway. Reality is that guilds doing rwzs regularly are hardcore and its not a bad thing just it is so niche. This is why there are so little viewers on rwz streams since most people do not watch what does not pertain to them. Its not your fault, rwzs were screwed since beginning by launching with no cross-server so the limited populations of separate servers could not sustain entry-level teams like pugs or casual guilds leaving only hardcore guilds doing rwz regularly.

For majority of playerbase the only pvp left then is normal warzones which are very bad experience and alienated a lot of people from pvp with no matchmaking and no role balancing leading to a lot of one-sided or boring games. A lot of people that still do them now quit at the first sign of losing or when their perceive their team to be bad. Since the cross-server seems to be off the table lower scale pvp is the only way to get matchmaking with limited server populations.

I personally I am sad that 8v8 queuing is going away. Did not had chance to do much ranked myself, it was exciting even in the old pyro PT FOTM days. Seems like Bioware reworked the queuing system and decided the drop support for ops queing for pvp. I don't remember but I think there is an option to queue as an ops group for operations so the capability still remains in the game in some way so not sure how hard it would be to leave this queing option from technical perspective but I think Bioware wants the rwz community to do the new arenas instead of splitting between them and rwzs. Also from these froums I get the impression that only TOFN guilds feel strongly about rwz removal, and Bioware never cared about EU as much as US so far.

You said they have played more ranked teams then people have done NiM. Since a majorirty of people can only attempt Operations once or twice a week and that guild could have possibly play ranked many times a day per week.
Comparing the removal of 8v8 ranked to the removal of an operation is just plain illogical and stupid.

Since 2.0 my Republic guild, Coral, on Tomb of Freedon Nadd, has faced 34 different guilds. That's just ONE Guild alone on ONE server. According to this thread only 20 guilds across a multitude of servers have attempted end game pve progression since 2.0 (linky spreadsheet).

So why remove a feature of the game that is used much more often by the community when it seems to be the biggest return in terms of subscribers?

I'm just gonna quote this guy for proving everyone's point.

Also he's refering to Hard Modes since 2.0, imagine the nightmare mode sheet. Yep very despicable.



A real PVE guild does operations 3 to 5 days a week. And I know this from PVEing in WoW for 8 years which is almost identical.

So much ignorance in your post

Oh you don't even have real statistics on how many people have done or attempted those operations? Not everyone goes and posts in the server forums.