No More Daily Quests! Restore SWtOR's Honor! This is not another WoW clone!

So, check this out and let your voice be heard!
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=670725

Dailies are indeed great for quick yet substantial cash. But do we need 5000 of them for those quick credits? Currently in the game there're dailies on/in Ilum, Belsavis, Section X, Black Hole, Makeb, Czerka along with GSI dailies on Makeb, Taooine, Hoth & Alderaan not to mention Gree event being dailies as well.

But you never see people complaining about WoW's issues at release, because those issues were a decade ago. When that game was competing with virtually nothing. Wonder why it grew so fast? Because it was casual.

There were no Worgen, Goblins, Blood Elves, Draenei, or Pandaren when WoW came out. There were 3 starting zones on each side when it was released. Not only that, but their quests were boring quest logs like they are today. Poorly put together stories. You know a game has a bad story when it has characters such as Thrall, Garrosh, Varian, and if you're even more interested in characters like this, look up Med'an. Worst character writing. Ever.

3 starting zones per faction. You're arrogant and clearly new to WoW. Now, about your 'WoW had more content at release' part:

PvE: When the game was released, there were two raids. Classes were so horribly balanced and only Alliance could have Paladins and Horde had Shamans. Paladins had 5 minute buffs that weren't party or raid wide, so they had to cast it on each person. They spent their entire time buffing, to say the least. There was no raid finder until Cataclysm either, and no transmog (which existed in other MMOs years before its time) or reforging before Cata.

Oh, and by the way, WoW didn't have Tanks or Healers at release. They were called Warrior and Priest, and if you were not one of those, you had better be dpsing. That was WoW's balance.

PvP: Arenas didn't exist until Burning Crusade, and rated battlegrounds came with Cataclysm. Battlegrounds were such a joke, they're poorly designed and still are to this day. Isle of Conquest (Wrath) and Alterac Valley favor the Alliance, the chances of Horde winning those are slim. You also had to run up to a NPC in a city in order to join the queue for a battleground, and you had to run to instances in order to do a dungeon. That didn't change until Wrath of the Lich King.

Look up "World of Roguecraft" if you're seeking insight about WoW's pvp balance at release.

Quests: WoW quests have always, even to this day, been boring text logs. If you roll two different alts and quest on them, you will end up going through the same stupid stories. Sometimes they don't even have a story, they're just dull pop culture references. The lore is that much of a joke in that game. Horde has some decent Horde in its starting areas now, but Alliance has degraded even more with the release of Cataclysm. Quests for Alliance that had lore were replaced with pop culture after pop culture reference.

At the release of WoW, servers were constantly down. This persisted well into Wrath of the Lich King where sometimes they would give out free days if someone's server was down for an entire day, sometimes they decided we didn't deserve one. There were constant bugs, sometimes if you took a zeppelin you would fall through the world. You could fall through the world just by thinking of falling through the world. That's how buggy the game was.

But you never see people complaining about WoW's issues at release, because those issues were a decade ago. When that game was competing with virtually nothing. Wonder why it grew so fast? Because it was casual.

this is fun but keep the insults and false info coming

True the WoW lore is rich, but it's all stemmed from the RTS, and the MMO had a terrible time trying to translate it. Let's take a look at those villians you mentioned. Arthas started out in Frozen Throne as this bad, ultimate evil. He was dark but he had this allure that made people love him. He was a threat that you didn't mind having. Cut to Wrath, and his entire character seemed to get butchered. All the stories that involved him ended with him acting like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget. "I'll get you next time, Heroes!" Then came the Icecrown raid. As you said, the fights were epic and amazing. But you remember what happened AFTER the fight? "There must ALWAYS be a Lich King!"? Terrible end. Arthas died a helpless shell of himself. I mean, his last words were "Is it over, Father?" or something like that. Very anti-climactic for a guy we used to believe could have destroyed us. Then there's Deathwing. Bad Dragon, epic look, dark designs. Stole the dragon soul and kidnapped his fellow dragon's cluth to raise them evil. Pretty epic, right? The came Cataclysm and he was reduced to an absentee villain and his entire end game ends with him getting flushed down a whirlpool.

Blizzard has good BACK stories. When they try to bring it to the fore front, they end up failing miserably. They're not good with main stories. That's why the best storyline they ever made was the Old Gods. Because they weren't the vocal point. It was just something that happens on the side. Ulduar and Ahn'Quiraj were just one off raids of the patch and they were EXCELLENT. Karazan is another great story because it didn't have anything to do with the main story, save for the Draenei at the end, which was a disappointing end itself.

Unfortunately for a seemingly small percentage of the playerbase, me included, the way this game is built from the ground up, dailies are vital to the entire end-game life... which is one of the contributing reasons why I've barely done any end-gaming myself (ops), and I've been here since day 1 of the forums launching (registered as user #6389). This game's design and complete structure - from questing, to world design, to mob placement, to end game, went in the complete opposite direction that I was hoping for when it was announced back in '08, but I'm still here because it's Star Wars, and I can at least pull some enjoyment from class stories and the occasional PvP (although I do wish I could just play through the class stories without the side missions/world arcs). But even the lore doesn't hit me nearly as hard as the KotOR I/II lore does... almost like this game tried to cater to a younger, The Clone Wars audience.

All that aside though, what I've noticed over the years is simply that most people who have a WoW background (which I don't), either like, or are indifferent regarding dailies and accept their place in the game), and the people who don't have a WoW background and come from games like SWG, and SWG specifically, like myself, can't stand dailies their place in the game. Not to make this a SWG thread, but to make my point, SWG had NO dailies because it was a free and open world in every sense of the word. Yes, you could recreate what others considered "dailies" in other games by running solo group missions for money as much or as long as you want, but the game wasn't designed and constructed around that mindset or activity. It was also a game that didn't have raids... There were non-instanced dungeons (until the CU & NGE, but I'm talking about the version of a game that didn't try to emulate WoW's ways) like the Death Watch Bunker, Geonosian Cave, Nightsister Cave, etc., but no traditional raids. Oh, and there was also no gear grind that this game was also built upon through never-ending dailies... Thought I'd throw that in for good measure.

TL;DR: I hate dailies with a greater passion than the Grinch hates Christmas.

PS I'm 23 years old, so you can't use the "Well, the newer MMO generation prefers the 'dailies>raid>gear up' cycle, so ****" excuse.

Because they don't know any better.